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<blockquote data-quote="NarkNark" data-source="post: 3908811" data-attributes="member: 57605"><p>I have a LG 22nd level cleric and have never cast Gate, but we have some climactic battles coming up and I would like a little extra help and am willing to spend the XP for it. So under the rules as I interpret them, I could bring in one 44 HD critter, or multiple other critters as long as their total HD do not exceed 22. Obviously, the single 44 HD critter would be preferable. </p><p>My limitation is that the target must be lawful good or neutral good, and it must be from the core books. </p><p></p><p>So, I know I could bring in a single Solar, but it seems like a Great Wyrm Gold Dragon is a viable option. Does that seem like a legitimate use of the spell? The description states that you can "call a kind of creature instead of a known individual", so if you were the DM, would you say that a "great wyrm gold dragon" is a kind of creature, or would you limit it to just "gold dragon", or even to just "dragon"? Assuming you would not allow that, what spell or spells could I cast to learn the name of a living Great Wyrm Gold Dragon, and if I do learn the name of one, then would allow the dragon to be summoned as a named individual (which the spell allows)? I think this would be allowable under the rules, but I've never seen anyone mention this use of the Gate spell. It seems like people just use it to bring in a Solar or something like that, even though the big old dragon is a 41 HD 37 CR creature that would be a heck of a lot more powerful. </p><p></p><p>Or are there even more powerful options out there that I am missing, possibly with templates applied? (Again, same questions apply there.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NarkNark, post: 3908811, member: 57605"] I have a LG 22nd level cleric and have never cast Gate, but we have some climactic battles coming up and I would like a little extra help and am willing to spend the XP for it. So under the rules as I interpret them, I could bring in one 44 HD critter, or multiple other critters as long as their total HD do not exceed 22. Obviously, the single 44 HD critter would be preferable. My limitation is that the target must be lawful good or neutral good, and it must be from the core books. So, I know I could bring in a single Solar, but it seems like a Great Wyrm Gold Dragon is a viable option. Does that seem like a legitimate use of the spell? The description states that you can "call a kind of creature instead of a known individual", so if you were the DM, would you say that a "great wyrm gold dragon" is a kind of creature, or would you limit it to just "gold dragon", or even to just "dragon"? Assuming you would not allow that, what spell or spells could I cast to learn the name of a living Great Wyrm Gold Dragon, and if I do learn the name of one, then would allow the dragon to be summoned as a named individual (which the spell allows)? I think this would be allowable under the rules, but I've never seen anyone mention this use of the Gate spell. It seems like people just use it to bring in a Solar or something like that, even though the big old dragon is a 41 HD 37 CR creature that would be a heck of a lot more powerful. Or are there even more powerful options out there that I am missing, possibly with templates applied? (Again, same questions apply there.) [/QUOTE]
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