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Message: <blockquote data-quote="guachi" data-source="post: 7113236" data-attributes="member: 6785802">Best- WizardCleric RogueI don't think there's a subclass that I don't like (well, maybe trickery) for the above three. All are fun and give me a good old-school vibe and warm fuzzies. I think my ideal party would be an Abjurer Wizard, Life Cleric, Thief Rogue, Battlemaster Fighter. A for all three classes.I love the fighter but think that Champion and Battlemaster should be separate classes. Despite liking both the Champion and Battlemaster, I think the design missed the mark a bit. B (but only because I really like Fighters)I don't like the basics of Paladin smiting so the entire class is below my expectations. C- I'd put Sorcerer at the bottom as I think the class is a complete failure and would never play one. DBeastmaster is a failure, and that's half the Ranger. CBard is great class, though I think the full casters bit isn't what I'd like out of the class. So it isn't at the top for me. I'd trade spells (maybe a 3/4 caster if such a thing were possible) for more fun Bard features. It's a grand, fun class otherwise. The class is well-designed for what it does even if "what it does" isn't what I'd like a Bard to do. B+I care nothing about Warlocks and if they were removed from the game I wouldn't care either way. No grade.I'd actually play a Monk if I had to, so it's not that bad. It's just the Elemental Monk is weak so it can't get a top grade but the chassis is good. BBerserker is poor but the Totems are very fun. It's like the entirety of the good part is Totems. Really, though, I don't think the class is necessary and could be subsumed under a generic fighter chassis. C+EDIT: I forgot Druid. I'm biased that in my current campaign one of my favorite players is having a blast with her Moon Druid so I'm sure she'd give it an 'A' as she has fun with everything she does. I'll have to leave this ungraded, not because I don't care but because I don't think I can be fair.Rogue A+Cleric AWizard ABard B+Monk BFighter BBarbarian C+Ranger CPaladin C-Sorcerer DWarlock Ungraded (lower than the Sorcerer as I can't even muster enough neurons to care about the class at all)Druid Ungraded</blockquote>

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