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<blockquote data-quote="FormerlyHemlock" data-source="post: 7114510" data-attributes="member: 6787650">Medium difficulty fights are chump fights unless the DM is deliberately gimmicking the system. A strong party will defeat them with essentially zero resource expenditure, sometimes literally zero resource expenditure.In other words, if you roll up a random Medium encounter on kobold.com, it will be a chump fight. You can hand-craft a difficult or uber-deadly Medium fight but it involves certain exploits, e.g. leveraging Intellect Devourers or large numbers of drow with sleep poison, or building an uber-Deadly fight (5 Death Knights, 5 Liches, and 5 Ancient Red Shadow Dragons) but then giving the PCs two situational advantages (bad guys start surprised; fight takes place in a holy temple which inflicts 2d10 radiant damage per round vs. bad guys but not the PCs) which per DMG reduces difficulty by two steps from Deadly -&gt; Hard -&gt; Medium.But without gimmicks like that, Medium fights are chump fights.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FormerlyHemlock, post: 7114510, member: 6787650"] Medium difficulty fights [I]are[/I] chump fights unless the DM is deliberately gimmicking the system. A strong party will defeat them with essentially zero resource expenditure, sometimes literally zero resource expenditure. In other words, if you roll up a random Medium encounter on kobold.com, it will be a chump fight. You can hand-craft a difficult or uber-deadly Medium fight but it involves certain exploits, e.g. leveraging Intellect Devourers or large numbers of drow with sleep poison, or building an uber-Deadly fight (5 Death Knights, 5 Liches, and 5 Ancient Red Shadow Dragons) but then giving the PCs two situational advantages (bad guys start surprised; fight takes place in a holy temple which inflicts 2d10 radiant damage per round vs. bad guys but not the PCs) which per DMG reduces difficulty by two steps from Deadly -> Hard -> Medium. But without gimmicks like that, Medium fights are chump fights. [/QUOTE]

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