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<blockquote data-quote="MrMyth" data-source="post: 5430859" data-attributes="member: 61155"><p>Just to give an example, here's our 'leopard man'. The Essentials Ranger is actually a great fit, so let's see how this looks a few levels in: </p><p> </p><p>Level 7 Human Scout</p><p>Str: 16, Con: 11, Dex: 18, Int: 10, Wis: 14, Cha: 8</p><p>AC: 22, Fort: 19, Ref: 20, Will: 17</p><p>Hp: 53, Surges: 7</p><p>Trained Skills: Nature +9, Endurance +8, Acrobatics +12, Athletics +11, Perception +9, Stealth +12</p><p>Features: Attack Finesse, Flashing Blade Mastery</p><p>Feats: Light Blade Expertise, Camouflage, Skill Power, Skill Swap, Armor Finesse</p><p>At-Will Stances: Aspect of the Regal Lion, Aspect of the Lurking Spider, Aspect of the Charging Ram</p><p>Powers: </p><p> At-Will: Dual Weapon Attack, Perfect Balance</p><p> Encounter: Power Strike 2/enc, Reactive Shift, Terrain Advantage, Scrambling Climb, Natural Terrain Understanding</p><p>Knacks: Ambush Expertise, Mountain Guide, Wilderness Tracker</p><p>Equipment: Feral Hide Armor +2, Tigerclaw Gauntlets +2, Safewing Amulet +1, Bracers of Mighty Striking, Cat's-Eye Headband, Boots of Adept Charging</p><p> </p><p>Final result? A character who runs around in animal hide, tears into enemies with feral claws, is exceptional at climbing trees, laying in ambush, and hunting prey. He is an effective character in combat, capable of using terrain to his advantage, who is deadly at pouncing upon his foes. </p><p> </p><p>This dude is pretty much the perfect representation of what you described. And the base class itself is found in the same book in which you were disappointed in the Sentinel Druid! Even if you ignore the options above that come from other sources, he still has plenty of built-in abilities to help with the skills and tactics that seem to fit your concept. </p><p> </p><p>I just don't see any problem with the system that it doesn't let you build a druid as a "dual-wielding nature warrior without wild-shape, animal companion, or healing magic" - when you already have multiple classes and builds that cover that concept. Ignoring those options and focusing on what the Druid is not just seems nonsensical.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MrMyth, post: 5430859, member: 61155"] Just to give an example, here's our 'leopard man'. The Essentials Ranger is actually a great fit, so let's see how this looks a few levels in: Level 7 Human Scout Str: 16, Con: 11, Dex: 18, Int: 10, Wis: 14, Cha: 8 AC: 22, Fort: 19, Ref: 20, Will: 17 Hp: 53, Surges: 7 Trained Skills: Nature +9, Endurance +8, Acrobatics +12, Athletics +11, Perception +9, Stealth +12 Features: Attack Finesse, Flashing Blade Mastery Feats: Light Blade Expertise, Camouflage, Skill Power, Skill Swap, Armor Finesse At-Will Stances: Aspect of the Regal Lion, Aspect of the Lurking Spider, Aspect of the Charging Ram Powers: At-Will: Dual Weapon Attack, Perfect Balance Encounter: Power Strike 2/enc, Reactive Shift, Terrain Advantage, Scrambling Climb, Natural Terrain Understanding Knacks: Ambush Expertise, Mountain Guide, Wilderness Tracker Equipment: Feral Hide Armor +2, Tigerclaw Gauntlets +2, Safewing Amulet +1, Bracers of Mighty Striking, Cat's-Eye Headband, Boots of Adept Charging Final result? A character who runs around in animal hide, tears into enemies with feral claws, is exceptional at climbing trees, laying in ambush, and hunting prey. He is an effective character in combat, capable of using terrain to his advantage, who is deadly at pouncing upon his foes. This dude is pretty much the perfect representation of what you described. And the base class itself is found in the same book in which you were disappointed in the Sentinel Druid! Even if you ignore the options above that come from other sources, he still has plenty of built-in abilities to help with the skills and tactics that seem to fit your concept. I just don't see any problem with the system that it doesn't let you build a druid as a "dual-wielding nature warrior without wild-shape, animal companion, or healing magic" - when you already have multiple classes and builds that cover that concept. Ignoring those options and focusing on what the Druid is not just seems nonsensical. [/QUOTE]
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