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<blockquote data-quote="mellored" data-source="post: 9458222" data-attributes="member: 6801209">And the goalposts keeps moving...No setup, no buffs, no allies, no magic items, and I lose concentration every round.&nbsp; But I will at least assume we can both get into melee range.Beserker Barbarian with GWM always getting a bonus action and reaction attack with a maul.2d6+7Str+4Rage = 18 * 4 = 72+12 GWM + 4d6 Berserker =102102 / .85 = 86.7 damage per round.Assuming a d10 weapon for easy calculations.&nbsp; 9 attacks per turn (10 on turn 1).1d10+5+10d8 = 55.5 damage per attack.9 *55.5 * 50% = 249.75 damage per round.CME is doing 288% the damage if the barbarian.I could lose concentration and quicken CME (7th) and still damage the barbarian.&nbsp;&nbsp; Then I could concentration a third time and quicken CME (6th) and still out damage the barbarian.Quicken CME 5th + EB5d10+25+20d8 = 145* 50% accuracy= 72.5Not quite.&nbsp; I either need to either make my concentration check, or cast at 6th level to out damage the barbarian.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="mellored, post: 9458222, member: 6801209"] And the goalposts keeps moving... No setup, no buffs, no allies, no magic items, and I lose concentration every round. But I will at least assume we can both get into melee range. Beserker Barbarian with GWM always getting a bonus action and reaction attack with a maul. 2d6+7Str+4Rage = 18 * 4 = 72 +12 GWM + 4d6 Berserker =102 102 / .85 = 86.7 damage per round. Assuming a d10 weapon for easy calculations. 9 attacks per turn (10 on turn 1). 1d10+5+10d8 = 55.5 damage per attack. 9 *55.5 * 50% = 249.75 damage per round. CME is doing 288% the damage if the barbarian. I could lose concentration and quicken CME (7th) and still damage the barbarian. Then I could concentration a third time and quicken CME (6th) and still out damage the barbarian. Quicken CME 5th + EB 5d10+25+20d8 = 145* 50% accuracy = 72.5 Not quite. I either need to either make my concentration check, or cast at 6th level to out damage the barbarian. [/QUOTE]

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