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<blockquote data-quote="RigaMortus2" data-source="post: 3405202" data-attributes="member: 11586">Quickened Spell (any) + Arcane Fusion + Celerity + Arcane Fusion = 8 spells in one round.Cast a Quickened spell of your choice (doesn't matter how), use Arcane Fusion to cast a 1st-level spell and a 4th-level spell, declare the end of your turn. Before anyone else can act (or wait to interrupt another spellcaster), cast Celerity to gain another Standard Action, which you then use to repeat Arcane Fusion.Celerity using your next round's swift action doesn't make any difference since you skip your next turn due to the dazed effect anyways. It is one heck of a Sorcerer nuke.And that is just what a single classes Sorcerer can do...I am responding to the OP, who never mentioned levels, stats or any other requirement for the &quot;best gestalt character&quot;.&nbsp; So what if Time Stop isn't reliable until 17th level?A Move Action is not very useful to a spellcaster, which is true.&nbsp; But look at how you are obtaining that Move Action....&nbsp; (Probably) via Expanded Knowledge as a Psion.&nbsp; So if you are already going the Psion/Cleric route (which you would be if you had Hustle) then you would have a Psionic Focus, which you have to expend on certain Psionic feats to enhance your Psionic powers.&nbsp; Which can only be retained as a Full Round Action OR...&nbsp; (wait for it)...&nbsp; As a MOVE ACTION via Psychic Meditation.&nbsp; This will allow you to apply multiple Psionic feats to your powers 2 - 3 times per round (Expend Psionic Focus 1st time + Move Action to get it back + Expend Psionic Focus 2nd time + Swift Action Hustle to get another Move Action + Move Action from Hustle to get Psionic Focus Back + Expend Psionic Focus 3rd time.)Who cares?&nbsp; Obviously you would not cast Polymorph if you were worried about using (Su) abilities.&nbsp; I also mentioned Shapechange in there as well...True.&nbsp; But you can use two (or more) spells that require a Swift or Immediate to use per round, simply by casting certain other spells before hand (look up Arcane Fusion).Yeah, but 8 or more is even more fun (see above)I would consider 8+ spells (each of 4th level or lower) per round quite meaningful.Right, but it is for a Psion (see above)Not if you want to be &quot;the most powerful&quot; gestalt like the OP asked for.&nbsp; Maybe if you want to be second to &quot;the most powerful&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="RigaMortus2, post: 3405202, member: 11586"] Quickened Spell (any) + Arcane Fusion + Celerity + Arcane Fusion = 8 spells in one round. Cast a Quickened spell of your choice (doesn't matter how), use Arcane Fusion to cast a 1st-level spell and a 4th-level spell, declare the end of your turn. Before anyone else can act (or wait to interrupt another spellcaster), cast Celerity to gain another Standard Action, which you then use to repeat Arcane Fusion. Celerity using your next round's swift action doesn't make any difference since you skip your next turn due to the dazed effect anyways. It is one heck of a Sorcerer nuke. And that is just what a single classes Sorcerer can do... I am responding to the OP, who never mentioned levels, stats or any other requirement for the "best gestalt character". So what if Time Stop isn't reliable until 17th level? A Move Action is not very useful to a [b]spellcaster[/b], which is true. But look at how you are obtaining that Move Action.... (Probably) via Expanded Knowledge as a Psion. So if you are already going the Psion/Cleric route (which you would be if you had Hustle) then you would have a Psionic Focus, which you have to expend on certain Psionic feats to enhance your Psionic powers. Which can only be retained as a Full Round Action OR... (wait for it)... As a MOVE ACTION via Psychic Meditation. This will allow you to apply multiple Psionic feats to your powers 2 - 3 times per round (Expend Psionic Focus 1st time + Move Action to get it back + Expend Psionic Focus 2nd time + Swift Action Hustle to get another Move Action + Move Action from Hustle to get Psionic Focus Back + Expend Psionic Focus 3rd time.) Who cares? Obviously you would not cast Polymorph if you were worried about using (Su) abilities. I also mentioned Shapechange in there as well... True. But you can use two (or more) spells that require a Swift or Immediate to use per round, simply by casting certain other spells before hand (look up Arcane Fusion). Yeah, but 8 or more is even more fun (see above) I would consider 8+ spells (each of 4th level or lower) per round quite meaningful. Right, but it is for a Psion (see above) Not if you want to be "the most powerful" gestalt like the OP asked for. Maybe if you want to be second to "the most powerful". [/QUOTE]

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