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<blockquote data-quote="RulesJD" data-source="post: 6919359" data-attributes="member: 6808367"><p>One of those tactics that is great <u>on paper</u>, but fails miserably in actual gameplay. Several principal reasons:</p><p></p><p>1. It 110% completely screws your party. The minor bump in <u>your</u> effectiveness is MORE than offset in the reduction in your ally's abilities in combat. </p><p></p><p>Basically, unless you are solo gaming OR in a party with other Warlocks, you'll never end up using this combo.</p><p></p><p>2. A surprisingly number of enemies get Blindsight, True Sight, Tremorsense, etc. This means not only are you screwing your party, but now the enemies also don't care.</p><p></p><p>3. Even moderately knowledgeable DMs know how to by-pass sight restrictions. For example, Grapple. Grapple + Shove prone checks are not impacted by Darkness. Fairly easy counter to put you at rolling regular (Prone disadvantage cancels Darkness Advantage) as well as enemies rolling regular.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Totally agree Darkness + Devil's Sight should be a great argument for Warlock gish builds. Except it just doesn't work in actual play.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RulesJD, post: 6919359, member: 6808367"] One of those tactics that is great [U]on paper[/U], but fails miserably in actual gameplay. Several principal reasons: 1. It 110% completely screws your party. The minor bump in [U]your[/U] effectiveness is MORE than offset in the reduction in your ally's abilities in combat. Basically, unless you are solo gaming OR in a party with other Warlocks, you'll never end up using this combo. 2. A surprisingly number of enemies get Blindsight, True Sight, Tremorsense, etc. This means not only are you screwing your party, but now the enemies also don't care. 3. Even moderately knowledgeable DMs know how to by-pass sight restrictions. For example, Grapple. Grapple + Shove prone checks are not impacted by Darkness. Fairly easy counter to put you at rolling regular (Prone disadvantage cancels Darkness Advantage) as well as enemies rolling regular. Totally agree Darkness + Devil's Sight should be a great argument for Warlock gish builds. Except it just doesn't work in actual play. [/QUOTE]
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