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Message: <blockquote data-quote="NewJeffCT" data-source="post: 4947035" data-attributes="member: 10784">As I had mentioned in some other threads, one of the leaders of the bad guys is a duskblade that has been a long-time party nemesis (way back from when the PCs were 4th level and the duskblade was 6th) - this duskblade has dropped a PC in each encounter (though, two of the three times, the PC was saved) and a couple of major NPC allies as well.  This time, the duskblade is 18th level and the PCs are level 17.I think Enervation or Toxic Weapon as 4th level touch spells?  Enervation allows no save, though is subject to Spell Resistance.  Toxic Weapon beats SR, but allows a Fortitude save.  She already has Dimension Door & Fire Shield as defensive spells.However, I still think Vampiric Touch is the best choice as a touch spell overall - do 9d6 spell damage and also gain 9d6 temporary hit points.  Do it as part of a full attack and she can do 36d6 damage with 4 hits (average 126) while also gaining 36d6 temporary hit points... and the 126 does not even count weapon damage.   So, dish out 175 points of damage and gain 125 or so temporary hit points.  (then, bang, my duskblade fails a save vs a mind affecting spell... and that's all she wrote)How about a 5th level spell?  Go with Disintegrate, or something else? Thanks</blockquote>