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<blockquote data-quote="Ath'kethin" data-source="post: 8293059" data-attributes="member: 6798775">Spells known would definitely rope in wizards; it (spells known) is easily my most hated mechanic in the game. It's so handicapping it almost makes characters limited by it not even worth playing IMO.So as a limit it would definitely work. But since a wizard's place historically (that is, pre-WotC) has been to be the most effective character with enough advance notice and time to research, I tend to feel that either making specialization actually mean something or somehow returning to a need for preparation and knowledge on the wizard's part makes more sense.We've also played where the specialization limit applies only to spells of 2nd level and higher, or 3rd level and higher, and that works too, but we still tend to see all wizards pick the same handful of cantrips and 1st or 2nd level spells when we do that.Rituals might just be my favorite modern era development for spellcasting, incidentally. It allows so much more flexibility to any character, without needing to multiclass. Rituals and the dis/advantage mechanic are the saving grace(s) of WotC's involvement with D&amp;D IMO.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ath'kethin, post: 8293059, member: 6798775"] Spells known would definitely rope in wizards; it (spells known) is easily my most hated mechanic in the game. It's so handicapping it almost makes characters limited by it not even worth playing IMO. So as a limit it would definitely work. But since a wizard's place historically (that is, pre-WotC) has been to be the most effective character [I]with enough advance notice and time to research, [/I]I tend to feel that either making specialization actually mean something or somehow returning to a need for preparation and knowledge on the wizard's part makes more sense. We've also played where the specialization limit applies only to spells of 2nd level and higher, or 3rd level and higher, and that works too, but we still tend to see all wizards pick the same handful of cantrips and 1st or 2nd level spells when we do that. Rituals might just be my favorite modern era development for spellcasting, incidentally. It allows so much more flexibility to any character, without needing to multiclass. Rituals and the dis/advantage mechanic are the saving grace(s) of WotC's involvement with D&D IMO. [/QUOTE]

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