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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ourph" data-source="post: 5229190" data-attributes="member: 20239">1st level - Elf x 62nd level and beyond - Elf x 5, Cleric x 1The other demi-humans are basically less able Fighters. If I were going to replace anyone, I'd switch out an Elf for a single Fighter, but Sleep spells x5 at 1st level is better than Sleep spells x4 and a few extra HP in the front line.You might think a party without a Thief is at a disadvantage when dealing with traps in the dungeon, but the Thief is so inept at dealing with traps that the difference isn't really noticeable IME.Some might argue that Elves lag behind MUs in getting access to higher level spells, but your dead MU PC who just got 1-shotted by a kobold with a sharp stick is NEVER going to cast high level spells. Now go roll up a character who can wear armor and has better HPs.Not that I think such a party would be particularly fun. But if we're talking about pure survivability, I think maxing out the Elves is the way to go.</blockquote>