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Message: <blockquote data-quote="humble minion" data-source="post: 9770184" data-attributes="member: 5948">I ... knew that, and I'd completely forgotten!  Thanks for the reminder.  I did buy that product, thought it's a while since I've read through it.  I was a bit sad to see the end of the hakima though.  And if i was writing Al-Qadim from the ground up now, I'd move on from the elemental wizards.  To me that just seemed like TSR's fairly lazy fallback option when they wanted an 'exotic' magic system.  Al-Qadim, Dark Sun, I think OA did it as well.  I'd have to agree with that approach.  I mean, it's not like most campaign settings based on European medieval tropes spend much time covering serfdom, or punishment by mutilation, or dynastic child betrothal, or that sort of thing, even though they are fairly well-documented historical happenings too.</blockquote>