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<blockquote data-quote="Gez" data-source="post: 224027" data-attributes="member: 1328"><p>S'mon, the bit in the PHB about feats not stacking is for not taking multiple times the same feat (i.e., you can't get two cleave attacks against someone by taking the cleave feat twice).</p><p></p><p>But you can use multiple metamagic feats on a same spell, including multiple use of the same feat.</p><p></p><p>By the way, when you use both Maximize and something else (Empower, Energy Admixture, Twin, Repeat, etc.), you maximize only the normal effect of the spell, and roll normally the extra damage. So a maximized empowered acid-admixted fireball would deal 60 fire damage, plus 10d6 /2 fire damage, plus 10d6 acid damage (and it would require a 12th-level spell slot...).</p><p></p><p>The bit on Cleave and Great Cleave (and even, heck, Whirlwind Cleave ! This demands you to built your character specifically to that end given the number of feat it requires in the sum of these two feat chains) don't pose problem. They are a kind of attack of opportunity. And Cleave would suck if you couldn't used it on a charge.</p><p></p><p>However, I'm strongly against using Cleave when you down someone on an AoO.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gez, post: 224027, member: 1328"] S'mon, the bit in the PHB about feats not stacking is for not taking multiple times the same feat (i.e., you can't get two cleave attacks against someone by taking the cleave feat twice). But you can use multiple metamagic feats on a same spell, including multiple use of the same feat. By the way, when you use both Maximize and something else (Empower, Energy Admixture, Twin, Repeat, etc.), you maximize only the normal effect of the spell, and roll normally the extra damage. So a maximized empowered acid-admixted fireball would deal 60 fire damage, plus 10d6 /2 fire damage, plus 10d6 acid damage (and it would require a 12th-level spell slot...). The bit on Cleave and Great Cleave (and even, heck, Whirlwind Cleave ! This demands you to built your character specifically to that end given the number of feat it requires in the sum of these two feat chains) don't pose problem. They are a kind of attack of opportunity. And Cleave would suck if you couldn't used it on a charge. However, I'm strongly against using Cleave when you down someone on an AoO. [/QUOTE]
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