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Message: <blockquote data-quote="James Gasik" data-source="post: 9632668" data-attributes="member: 6877472">If Robocop is a superhero movie, that shoots it up towards the top.  I never saw it that way (well maybe Robocop 3) because while Murphy does have superpowers (being a cyborg), the focus of the movie isn't so much on superheroics as showing us a dystopian society and confronting the Ship of Theseus- how much of a man can you replace and have him still be a man?I'm not saying you can't call it a superhero movie, but this shows how nebulous the "genre" is.  Ghost in the Shell covers many of the same themes, and the Major is a superhuman cyborg, but I wouldn't call any of it's iterations "superhero" fare.What makes The Punisher a superhero and Paul Kersey (Deathwish) not a superhero?  Is it just being from a comic book?  Is it wearing a costume?  If it's being over the top and unrealistic, let's look at any 80's action movie.  Is John Rambo a superhero?Or how about the McManus brothers from Boondock Saints (where the idea of them being superheroes is mocked by Willem Dafoe's character in-universe).I think we have to have some kind of consensus on what is a superhero movie.  It can't just be a "comic book" movie, because Darkman exists- superhero without comic.  Or on the other hand, The Losers, comic book movie without superheroes (unless you count that hilarious scene with Chris Evans).It can't just be about a guy wearing a funny costume- unless you count shredded pants for the Hulk.It can't just be about over the top CGI, because 300 was a movie.To further illustrate these points, is the original Ghostbusters a superhero movie or not?**man, I feel like I might be responsible for creating another pointless "is Die Hard a Christmas movie" debate with this one, lol.</blockquote>

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