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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Treebore" data-source="post: 5009990" data-attributes="member: 10177">RPG "rules" are just suggested guidelines, always have been according to the guys who originally created D&D, and I will always play with that spirit, attitude, thought, philosophy, or whatever you wish to call it in mind.Combine it with whats written in my sig area and you have how I go about adjudicating games as well as playing themAs for the shark issue, the only time they do not shake and tear is when they do not bite through the object in the first place. Only Whale Sharks, Basking Sharks, and Mega Mouth sharks are the only ones I am aware of, or remembering at this time, that do not do the shaking, since their teeth are so small many do not even consider them to be teeth.Now the Tiger Shark doesn't "Grapple", but they do a sawing chew kind of motion, so they aren't letting go of you either.Plus remember that a good number of shark jaws extend out a bit and pull in, and repeat, to help them bite and swallow.So to describe shark bites as a "grapple attack" is fairly accurate enough as to definitely be logical.Since there are hundreds of species of sharks, ranging in size from about 5 inches (Cookie Cutter Shark) to over to over 41 feet (Whale Shark) it isn't easy to generalize what sharks do in terms of eating. But saying sharks of a certain size, with the most recognized type of shark teeth is certainly a reasonable and logical to allow them to essentially "grapple".</blockquote>

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