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<blockquote data-quote="JohnSnow" data-source="post: 8072983" data-attributes="member: 32164">I think this is the way to go, and I'm not sure that it's not better to have a Savage Worlds, d6 Star Wars, or Mutants &amp; Masterminds style Wound/Condition Track. It's been a while since I read the latter, so forgive me if I'm misremembering. But in Savage Worlds, PCs can endure up to 3 wounds (or a few more with the right edges/bonuses) before the 4th renders them &quot;incapacitated.&quot; Up to a point, they can also &quot;soak&quot; wounds, by spending a Benny to &quot;absorb&quot; the damage. And yes, a single attack can cause more than one wound. But your Soak roll can absorb some or all of them. Extras (the mooks) are incapacitated by 1 wound unless they're resilient (2 wounds), or very resilient (3 wounds). The only other thing that increases Wounds for creatures is Size.Savage Worlds also has another cool nod to complexity that's still highly playable. If, and only if, a character is incapacitated by a strike, they roll to see how serious it was. They could die, have a permanent injury and be bleeding out, or end up with a wound that impairs them for 24 hours or until all their wounds are healed. There's also a cool mechanic called &quot;the Golden Hour&quot; which basically says that wounds that aren't treated immediately can only be healed by high-level magic. It's a cool mechanic that allows for characters to be actually injured. I remember one of the things Monte Cook did in Ptolus that I really liked was that magical healing left scars. Because, IMO, as long as it's not overdone, a good combat system should absolutely support getting scarred, having one eye, developing a limp, or even losing a hand.And yes, I agree that high level characters should be able to have more options, shrug off their wounds to an extent, affect more enemies, or be better at shrugging off a hit. But it should still be possible to hurt them. And then one can draw a solid line about where heroes pass from being heroic, to legendary, to supernatural. And then decide what degree of magic should be available based on that dial.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="JohnSnow, post: 8072983, member: 32164"] I think this is the way to go, and I'm not sure that it's not better to have a [I]Savage Worlds, d6 Star Wars,[/I] or [I]Mutants & Masterminds[/I] style Wound/Condition Track. It's been a while since I read the latter, so forgive me if I'm misremembering. But in [I]Savage Worlds,[/I] PCs can endure up to 3 wounds (or a few more with the right edges/bonuses) before the 4th renders them "incapacitated." Up to a point, they can also "soak" wounds, by spending a Benny to "absorb" the damage. And yes, a single attack can cause more than one wound. But your Soak roll can absorb some or all of them. Extras (the mooks) are incapacitated by 1 wound unless they're resilient (2 wounds), or very resilient (3 wounds). The only other thing that increases Wounds for creatures is Size. [I]Savage Worlds[/I] also has another cool nod to complexity that's still highly playable. If, and only if, a character is incapacitated by a strike, they roll to see how serious it was. They could die, have a permanent injury and be bleeding out, or end up with a wound that impairs them for 24 hours or until all their wounds are healed. There's also a cool mechanic called "the Golden Hour" which basically says that wounds that aren't treated immediately can only be healed by high-level magic. It's a cool mechanic that allows for characters to be actually injured. I remember one of the things Monte Cook did in [I]Ptolus[/I] that I really liked was that magical healing left scars. Because, IMO, as long as it's not overdone, a good combat system should absolutely support getting scarred, having one eye, developing a limp, or even losing a hand. And yes, I agree that high level characters should be able to have more options, shrug off their wounds to an extent, affect more enemies, or be better at shrugging off a hit. But it should still be possible to hurt them. And then one can draw a solid line about where heroes pass from being heroic, to legendary, to supernatural. And then decide what degree of magic should be available based on that dial. [/QUOTE]

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