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<blockquote data-quote="aramis erak" data-source="post: 8224857" data-attributes="member: 6779310">Yep, But, if one's Traveller games mirror reality, Attenuation's not going to matter for anything but the body pistol. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />My fencing and living in bad neighborhoods puts me close to agreement. I prefer the MT convert damage points to atts as a simplifiction, and it also matches the published data on one-shot stops and one-shot kills a bit better. It also lets me run mass combat without having to convert everything to similar sized units.Then again, I tweak MT for swinging-from-the-chandeliers level swashbucklers-in-space feel... (the multiplier breakpoints change for Pen/Atten to&nbsp; ≥0.1 = × 0.1 vs soft armor and ×0 for hard, ≥ 0.5 = ×0.5, ≥1 = ×1, ≥2 = × 2; I use Att/3 instead of Att/5, and increase the TN by 1.As for Mr. Nilson... he basically shat upon the setting. Marc approved the Virus, and it implies it wasn't Mr. Nilson's brainchild, but he did ride that puppy into ground, and then accuse fans of CT of being delusional in print. Many fans would rather see the Aliens of the Rim vol 1 decanonized, thanks to the sh**show that was the ithklur and the introduction.&nbsp; And Don wasn't wrong... the sales numbers for TNE were a small fraction of MT. And TNE was in print longer. Thing is... Mr. Nilson and his (as my buddy Cryton calls it) &quot;Dark Traveller&quot; brought mostly new players, rather than selling to the fans of prior. Some of us tried it - I ran four campaigns of it... one converted to MT midway through at player request. The other three? A TPK, a TPK, and a successful return from a trip into the wilds... which ended with a near TPK as they blew up&nbsp; a power plant that was virused.It was mishandled. It found an audience at the cost of alienating a large part of the existing one.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="aramis erak, post: 8224857, member: 6779310"] Yep, But, if one's Traveller games mirror reality, Attenuation's not going to matter for anything but the body pistol. :) My fencing and living in bad neighborhoods puts me close to agreement. I prefer the MT convert damage points to atts as a simplifiction, and it also matches the published data on one-shot stops and one-shot kills a bit better. It also lets me run mass combat without having to convert everything to similar sized units. Then again, I tweak MT for swinging-from-the-chandeliers level swashbucklers-in-space feel... (the multiplier breakpoints change for Pen/Atten to ≥0.1 = × 0.1 vs soft armor and ×0 for hard, ≥ 0.5 = ×0.5, ≥1 = ×1, ≥2 = × 2; I use Att/3 instead of Att/5, and increase the TN by 1. As for Mr. Nilson... he basically shat upon the setting. Marc approved the Virus, and it implies it wasn't Mr. Nilson's brainchild, but he did ride that puppy into ground, and then accuse fans of CT of being delusional in print. Many fans would rather see the Aliens of the Rim vol 1 decanonized, thanks to the sh**show that was the ithklur and the introduction. And Don wasn't wrong... the sales numbers for TNE were a small fraction of MT. And TNE was in print longer. Thing is... Mr. Nilson and his (as my buddy Cryton calls it) "Dark Traveller" brought mostly new players, rather than selling to the fans of prior. Some of us tried it - I ran four campaigns of it... one converted to MT midway through at player request. The other three? A TPK, a TPK, and a successful return from a trip into the wilds... which ended with a near TPK as they blew up a power plant that was virused. It was mishandled. It found an audience at the cost of alienating a large part of the existing one. [/QUOTE]

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