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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DaedalusX51" data-source="post: 7171598" data-attributes="member: 96233">I think it's important for both the players to be willing to suspend belief enough to play within the DM's world and for the DM to make a world that is easy enough for the players to be willing to suspend their belief in.  D&D is a collaborative storytelling game and it's important that everyone can be involved and have fun. (I'm going to assume you aren't passively aggressively calling me a jerk here because I do value your input on these discussions here and in other threads and that would be quite unfortunate.)Oh I don't really have a problem with that design choice, but it is a large change for what was expected out of D&D.  In addition, I think they didn't actually go far enough with their design.  I think they should have taken an effects first design like the Champions RPG, and made your power source dictate additional things about your abilities.  So instead of having a bunch of pregenerated powers you would just create powers and give them your own fluff.I have issues with this part.I played 4E from the day it came out until the start of the D&D Next playtest.  I think there were many great things about it, but I didn't like everything.I remember the constant edition wars on the Wizards 4E forums and all of the discussions that took place. (And if I remember correctly you were a prolific poster in defense of the core 4E design)Now I think the argument about disassociative mechanics has merit, but I do not want to get rid of the Fighter's nice things.  I am actually looking for the complexity and round by round decision making of a 4E Fighter but with mechanics tied closer to the narrative.  I know the 4E Slayer and Knight were considered sub par due to their lack of daily powers, but I think the design just wasn't quite there at the time.  I think there is still room to find a balance, but unfortunately 5E still isn't quite there for me. I want us both to really get what we want in the Fighter class. I don't think our desires are mutually exclusive.These are all great ideas and I really appreciate your input.  Thanks!</blockquote>

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