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<blockquote data-quote="chilibean" data-source="post: 37904" data-attributes="member: 2220">You can avoid &quot;cover helping enemies&quot; oddity by simply allowing someone to &quot;uncover&quot; themselves as a free action and the begining of their turn and &quot;recover&quot; themselves at the end.I like the idea of using shields as cover.&nbsp; I always thought a guy with a shield would have a much better chance of living through a fireball than a guy without one.Using relative size seems like a good idea too.&nbsp; By the rules, a tower shield helps an ogre as much as it does a halfling.&nbsp; Saying that a shield of the same size category as the weilder would be 50% cover sounds about right.&nbsp; So a small shield would be &quot;small&quot;, large shield would be &quot;meduim&quot;, and a tower shield would be &quot;large&quot;.&nbsp; A titan picking up a halfling's buckler for a shield, is about like me hiding behind a penny.&nbsp; 0.01% cover = +0 AC bonus.So what about the idea of straping a shield to your back?&nbsp; How would that work, since there is no facing?&nbsp; Maybe it would be half as effective as if you held it (rounded down of course) for AC purposes?&nbsp; People do get hit on the back even when fighting just 1 person.&nbsp; And if you dove to the ground to avoid a fireball, a shield on your back might be very nice.Of course, if you did that, you might want to make the max dex bonus for shields stack with the armor.&nbsp; So if the armor has a max dex of +3, that would make it a +2 if that person had a small shield also, and only +1 for a large shield.&nbsp; And do that again if they strap a shield to their back.&nbsp; Perhaps, allow the max dex bonus start to go negative?&nbsp; So full plate, a large shield in hand, and a large shield strapped to your back would be a total of -3 dex penalty to armor.&nbsp; Of course, the fact that you're now a big slow clunking mass of metal walking around is offset by the fact that you've got enough steel strapped to you to fend off almost anything.By the way, does max dex bonus of armor affect your dex bonus for things other than AC while you're wearing it?&nbsp; What about other gear?&nbsp; If you're encumbered, can you still get your full dex bonus?&nbsp; You know, like initative, reflex saves, etc...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="chilibean, post: 37904, member: 2220"] You can avoid "cover helping enemies" oddity by simply allowing someone to "uncover" themselves as a free action and the begining of their turn and "recover" themselves at the end. I like the idea of using shields as cover. I always thought a guy with a shield would have a much better chance of living through a fireball than a guy without one. Using relative size seems like a good idea too. By the rules, a tower shield helps an ogre as much as it does a halfling. Saying that a shield of the same size category as the weilder would be 50% cover sounds about right. So a small shield would be "small", large shield would be "meduim", and a tower shield would be "large". A titan picking up a halfling's buckler for a shield, is about like me hiding behind a penny. 0.01% cover = +0 AC bonus. So what about the idea of straping a shield to your back? How would that work, since there is no facing? Maybe it would be half as effective as if you held it (rounded down of course) for AC purposes? People do get hit on the back even when fighting just 1 person. And if you dove to the ground to avoid a fireball, a shield on your back might be very nice. Of course, if you did that, you might want to make the max dex bonus for shields stack with the armor. So if the armor has a max dex of +3, that would make it a +2 if that person had a small shield also, and only +1 for a large shield. And do that again if they strap a shield to their back. Perhaps, allow the max dex bonus start to go negative? So full plate, a large shield in hand, and a large shield strapped to your back would be a total of -3 dex penalty to armor. Of course, the fact that you're now a big slow clunking mass of metal walking around is offset by the fact that you've got enough steel strapped to you to fend off almost anything. By the way, does max dex bonus of armor affect your dex bonus for things other than AC while you're wearing it? What about other gear? If you're encumbered, can you still get your full dex bonus? You know, like initative, reflex saves, etc... [/QUOTE]

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