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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 6920360" data-attributes="member: 12731">[MENTION=6802178]Caliburn101[/MENTION] I agree to everything you say. I just feel that since monster challenge is already so weak, there is little to be lost by allowing proficiency bonus to keep increasing. It's not that by capping proficiency bonuses you will salvage much useful rules material.So you will have to create new monsters anyway. And since you do, why not keep advancing proficiency bonuses along with everything else. This thread is clearly about when you want to keep leveling even after level 20. If you are malcontent with the way the DMG gives you epic boons but not all the other perks of levelling, such as class features, hit points and, yes, increased proficieny bonuses, then I suggest you go all out. In fact, if not before, so when you enter the epic levels, you should probably add a "nonproficiency bonus" to lift those scores that have remained rock bottom all along. Both you and all epic monsters are otherwise more defined by their glaring weaknesses than any strengths.I suggest a non-proficiency bonus that starts at +2, and rises by one step every four levels or CR. (Exactly like the proficiency bonus in fact, only twenty levels behind).</blockquote>