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<blockquote data-quote="RobNJ" data-source="post: 373829" data-attributes="member: 3617">Re: Can't live with them....My problem is that mentality hasn't trickled down to everyone I play with just yet.&nbsp; A lot of them seem to very much have a proscriptive take on alignment.&nbsp; What they see on the sheet is how they act and anyone tries to stop them is in for a hell of a surprise.&nbsp; Since my players take role playing very seriously, this leads to horrible, bitter arguments (part of that is due to us having one very irritating player in the group) wherein your chaotic goods and your lawful goods are at each other's throats and screaming for blood.I just started to get this idyllic, pastoral dream where players just were whatever character they wanted to be.&nbsp; I want to be a reckless hero who wants to write his name across the stars and isn't afraid to cut corners along the way to make sure that's so.&nbsp; I can adventure with a martial artist and a guy who creeps into the bedrooms of our king's enemies and kills them in their sleep.&nbsp; That sort of thing would happen quite often in books, but you'd almost never see it in a D&amp;D campaign (now I'm sure I'm going to get a dozen counter examples).I just want freedom.&nbsp; I mean, it's got to tell us something that not a single d20 product that I'm aware of other than Dungeons &amp; Dragons (not even those produced by Wizards) has the alignment system.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="RobNJ, post: 373829, member: 3617"] [b]Re: Can't live with them....[/b] My problem is that mentality hasn't trickled down to everyone I play with just yet. A lot of them seem to very much have a proscriptive take on alignment. What they see on the sheet is how they act and anyone tries to stop them is in for a hell of a surprise. Since my players take role playing very seriously, this leads to horrible, bitter arguments (part of that is due to us having one very irritating player in the group) wherein your chaotic goods and your lawful goods are at each other's throats and screaming for blood. I just started to get this idyllic, pastoral dream where players just were whatever character they wanted to be. I want to be a reckless hero who wants to write his name across the stars and isn't afraid to cut corners along the way to make sure that's so. I can adventure with a martial artist and a guy who creeps into the bedrooms of our king's enemies and kills them in their sleep. That sort of thing would happen quite often in books, but you'd almost never see it in a D&D campaign (now I'm sure I'm going to get a dozen counter examples). I just want freedom. I mean, it's got to tell us something that not a single d20 product that I'm aware of other than Dungeons & Dragons (not even those produced by Wizards) has the alignment system. [/QUOTE]

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