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<blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 436738" data-attributes="member: 8461">I thought 4CTF seemed set okay for level 20+ play (in terms of mechanics) the way it is now. I mean, suppose you choose another level in the Hero class when you go up a level. You get the standard BAB and Saving Throw increases that everyone else gets. You still get feats and ability score increases at the normal intervals. Add in the lack of any sort of bonus feats and skill points, and it doesnt seem too over-powered to me.While you could still purchase up to two Epic Feats per level increase, given that almost every other class gets bonus feats, combined with the high prerequisites necessary for Epic Feats (prerequisites you likely wont meet if you`ve taken a lot of Hero levels and have a low BAB, since quite a few of them are combat-based, and others are spell or special ability based, meaning Hero characters will need some hefty multiclassing to be able to get them), it seems to balance out.A lot of Super Powers also cost quite a bit to enhance or gain, so only four points seems just right to me.::shrugs:: Maybe Im missing something here, but I thought it was great the way it was. Now, what would an Epic Specialist or Gadgeteer look like?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Alzrius, post: 436738, member: 8461"] I thought 4CTF seemed set okay for level 20+ play (in terms of mechanics) the way it is now. I mean, suppose you choose another level in the Hero class when you go up a level. You get the standard BAB and Saving Throw increases that everyone else gets. You still get feats and ability score increases at the normal intervals. Add in the lack of any sort of bonus feats and skill points, and it doesnt seem too over-powered to me. While you could still purchase up to two Epic Feats per level increase, given that almost every other class gets bonus feats, combined with the high prerequisites necessary for Epic Feats (prerequisites you likely wont meet if you`ve taken a lot of Hero levels and have a low BAB, since quite a few of them are combat-based, and others are spell or special ability based, meaning Hero characters will need some hefty multiclassing to be able to get them), it seems to balance out. A lot of Super Powers also cost quite a bit to enhance or gain, so only four points seems just right to me. ::shrugs:: Maybe Im missing something here, but I thought it was great the way it was. Now, what would an Epic Specialist or Gadgeteer look like? [/QUOTE]

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