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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Psion" data-source="post: 137522" data-attributes="member: 172">PDF PricingA few points:(1)WotC has recently been putting out 48 page books for $9.95. Further, I do not agree that it necessarily takes less playtesting; I just reviewed a module that I definitely think deserved more playtesting. At any rate, playtesting is often on a volunteer basis, so I am not so sure how big an impact that should have on you botton line. (Playtesting when done correctly usually involves rewriting, so I can sort of see your point, but again, advetures should be doing that too.)(2)Further, comparing the price of PDF products directly to print products is a false dichotomy. Some people don't have access to laptops convenient for gaming, and even if they do, you can't exactly pass it around the table. Most worthwhile gaming products get printed out, and most people who do so are conscious of the fact that printing things out costs money.I picked up Bastion of Broken Souls at a discount (NOT hard to get) the day before I picked up Beyond Monks. The fact that they were within a dollar of each other yet I knew I would be paying to print out Beyond Monks led me too feel it was a bit pricey.(3)Despite the above, the dollar value of PDFs vs. Print Products may be debatable. However, the fact is that compared to your peers, Beyond Monks is pricey. Beyond Monks is a very nice book, being mechanically solid and well written. But I think it is safe to say that Book of Eldritch Might II and Wild Spellcraft are also well written. Both of those books are 64 page books, and both of those books have more artwork than BM and where at least as well laid-out. Yet both of those books are a full dollar cheaper.Not that I am trying to slam you or anything. I think that point (1) and (2) pertain to the PDF market in general, and I think that the price trend of PDF products in general may make them less of a bargain for d20 consumers than they once were.Point (3) is probably the most telling point for you. That is the marketplace you live in and is probably something you should consider.At any rate, to the more pertinent point: I do have Beyond Monks (obviously). I didn't like the approach at first, but it is growing on me. I have trouble seeing shoehorning the Martial Artist core class into a game where the Monk already exists, but it seems like it could be a good baseline for a fresh martial arts oriented game. I also appreciate how the prestige classes are written to use either monks or martial artists. I would have like to have seen a sample character for the crooked monk, though. I am thinking about writing a review of it... when I get time. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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