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<blockquote data-quote="Mercurius" data-source="post: 6226984" data-attributes="member: 59082"><p>Umbran, as I wrote before, you're taking a single quote ("tree") and missing the total argument ("forest"), and then repeating that same mistake. No offense, but that's what politicians do when they're trying to smeer their opponents - they take quotes out of context to make them look bad. </p><p></p><p>Here's a (hopefully humorous) example. Let's saying you hear me say the following:</p><p></p><p><em>Black people are inherently better at basketball.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em></em>You might think, "he's a racist!" But what if that sentence was part of a larger sentence?</p><p></p><p><em>One might think that <strong>black people are inherently better at basketball</strong> because of the high percentage of African Americans playing in the NBA, which is much higher than the population; but that would be an over-simplification that we must better understand through looking at cultural and contextual factors.</em></p><p></p><p>I feel that you did something similar with my post, teasing out one sentence you disagreed with and missing the rest of it that framed it in a way that the meaning of the quote you pointed out wasn't as sharply defined or stated as you implied.</p><p></p><p>For instance, you seemingly missed the last part where I said it wasn't about what was old school or new school, but imagination itself.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, I agree with you - but that's not the point of my OP or his thread, to "determine which is objectively best." What I was doing was exploring different angles around, not trying to argue for which is best. As I said in the OP, I wasn't (and am not) trying to write a Definitive Statement about imagination, old and new school, but paint impressionistic pictures and explore the relationship between imagination and rules, etc. </p><p></p><p>That said, I <em>do </em>think too many rules can obfuscate the flow of imagination and that there "better" and "worse" ways to facilitate imaginative flow. I'm not saying that there's a clear or definitive answer, but that its worth exploring.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mercurius, post: 6226984, member: 59082"] Umbran, as I wrote before, you're taking a single quote ("tree") and missing the total argument ("forest"), and then repeating that same mistake. No offense, but that's what politicians do when they're trying to smeer their opponents - they take quotes out of context to make them look bad. Here's a (hopefully humorous) example. Let's saying you hear me say the following: [I]Black people are inherently better at basketball. [/I]You might think, "he's a racist!" But what if that sentence was part of a larger sentence? [I]One might think that [B]black people are inherently better at basketball[/B] because of the high percentage of African Americans playing in the NBA, which is much higher than the population; but that would be an over-simplification that we must better understand through looking at cultural and contextual factors.[/I] I feel that you did something similar with my post, teasing out one sentence you disagreed with and missing the rest of it that framed it in a way that the meaning of the quote you pointed out wasn't as sharply defined or stated as you implied. For instance, you seemingly missed the last part where I said it wasn't about what was old school or new school, but imagination itself. Yeah, I agree with you - but that's not the point of my OP or his thread, to "determine which is objectively best." What I was doing was exploring different angles around, not trying to argue for which is best. As I said in the OP, I wasn't (and am not) trying to write a Definitive Statement about imagination, old and new school, but paint impressionistic pictures and explore the relationship between imagination and rules, etc. That said, I [I]do [/I]think too many rules can obfuscate the flow of imagination and that there "better" and "worse" ways to facilitate imaginative flow. I'm not saying that there's a clear or definitive answer, but that its worth exploring. [/QUOTE]
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