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<blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 6227041" data-attributes="member: 6696971"><p>"Decisions" and "resolution of intent" in RPGs may be completely decoupled things. For instance, [for a local bit of anecdote with a contemporary 4e PBP I'm running, I can think from the top of my head right quick:</p><p></p><p>1) @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=16586" target="_blank">Campbell</a></u></strong></em> and @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=386" target="_blank">LostSoul</a></u></strong></em> "decided" to attempt to reform their primary antagonist (agenda and ethos) mid-climactic battle. The intent was mechanically resolved (rather than by my fiat or theirs) but the decision to reform the antagonist was autonomous and driven by player-authored backstory and the emergent properties of our gameplay.</p><p></p><p>2) @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=42582" target="_blank">pemerton</a></u></strong></em> and @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=27570" target="_blank">sheadunne</a></u></strong></em> decided to put themselves in grave peril to save their companions from almost assured death by jumping from a balcony, 7 stories up, which was overlooking a Royal Garden (where 1 was taking place). They could have instead tried a group Athletics check which would have saved them from the considerable damage they took but it would have made them arrive later in the fiction, putting their friends at peril. The leap was mechanically resolved (and it hurt immensely) as would have been the group Athletics check. However, the decision to take the leap was motivated by valour, bravery and Big-Damn-Herodom...certainly not the impetus of mechanical resolution.</p><p></p><p>Both of those examples are "fiction-first" and they are one of many.</p><p></p><p>Your, yet another, 4e hitpiece is just out there...totally off the reservation of my experience or the experience of so many other who post here. I know its difficult to bridle your contempt but it would be awesome if you could make a better effort.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Manbearcat, post: 6227041, member: 6696971"] "Decisions" and "resolution of intent" in RPGs may be completely decoupled things. For instance, [for a local bit of anecdote with a contemporary 4e PBP I'm running, I can think from the top of my head right quick: 1) @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=16586"]Campbell[/URL][/U][/B][/I] and @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=386"]LostSoul[/URL][/U][/B][/I] "decided" to attempt to reform their primary antagonist (agenda and ethos) mid-climactic battle. The intent was mechanically resolved (rather than by my fiat or theirs) but the decision to reform the antagonist was autonomous and driven by player-authored backstory and the emergent properties of our gameplay. 2) @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=42582"]pemerton[/URL][/U][/B][/I] and @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=27570"]sheadunne[/URL][/U][/B][/I] decided to put themselves in grave peril to save their companions from almost assured death by jumping from a balcony, 7 stories up, which was overlooking a Royal Garden (where 1 was taking place). They could have instead tried a group Athletics check which would have saved them from the considerable damage they took but it would have made them arrive later in the fiction, putting their friends at peril. The leap was mechanically resolved (and it hurt immensely) as would have been the group Athletics check. However, the decision to take the leap was motivated by valour, bravery and Big-Damn-Herodom...certainly not the impetus of mechanical resolution. Both of those examples are "fiction-first" and they are one of many. Your, yet another, 4e hitpiece is just out there...totally off the reservation of my experience or the experience of so many other who post here. I know its difficult to bridle your contempt but it would be awesome if you could make a better effort. [/QUOTE]
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