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<blockquote data-quote="Teflon Billy" data-source="post: 1114727" data-attributes="member: 264"><p>[/b]</p><p></p><p>There's bias everywhere man...EN World is no different<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Then you have achieved your stated goal: You considered the given information and drew your won conclusion.</p><p></p><p>The idea that there is ever an unbiased statement in media is crazy, forget the statement itself, the fact that certain staements are made or not made shows the bias of the reporter or the editorial staff. </p><p></p><p>Bias is not a bad thing, I myself am biased against the views of white supremacists, pedophiles and wife beaters, and were i to do a report on any of their views, my bias would likely cast its shadow over the piece.</p><p></p><p>In this case, I drew my conclusion after reading the opinions of people whose opinions I respect who have more insight into the situation that I do (Ryan Dancey for the most part, but others as well).</p><p></p><p>You've done the same thing (it would seem that you trust Anthony Valterra's commentary as much as I do), and it has affected your opinion on the news.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yet somehow, you managed to make a decision contrary to the bias you saw. Mission accomplished.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That communities develop standards cannot be news to you. The prevailing culture here at En World is biased toward the third-party D20 Publishers. Ever has it been and ever shall it be. The 3rd party folks are present, active and helpful. When the core of the license that allows them to prosper is changed to protect a monolithic corporation, then yes, you can expect bias to lean in support of the people we know.</p><p></p><p>This is a community. Communities rally around their members. It's the way of the world (or it should be). </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Me too. it happens all the time. I've seen people expressing unpopular opinions get slammed more than once (hi Snoweel <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />).</p><p></p><p>Hell, I've <em>been</em> the slamee more than once (Hi Piratecate <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />)</p><p></p><p>But in the final analysis, to pretend (or expect) that community standards should not reflect the community that creates them is a hard statement to get behind.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You'll win no points by placing yourself as the one free thinker in Stepford man<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Lots of people here hold opinions contrary to the majority. They are allowed to express them at will (so long as Eric's Grandma doesn't bring the hammer down...fascist ol' lady <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />)</p><p></p><p>But nobody has to agree with them. If you have a point, try and make it. People can be swayed. But to imply that the starting point for your argument should be moved somewhere other than where the prevailing sentiment places it is not going to win you any converts.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Teflon Billy, post: 1114727, member: 264"] [/b] There's bias everywhere man...EN World is no different:) Then you have achieved your stated goal: You considered the given information and drew your won conclusion. The idea that there is ever an unbiased statement in media is crazy, forget the statement itself, the fact that certain staements are made or not made shows the bias of the reporter or the editorial staff. Bias is not a bad thing, I myself am biased against the views of white supremacists, pedophiles and wife beaters, and were i to do a report on any of their views, my bias would likely cast its shadow over the piece. In this case, I drew my conclusion after reading the opinions of people whose opinions I respect who have more insight into the situation that I do (Ryan Dancey for the most part, but others as well). You've done the same thing (it would seem that you trust Anthony Valterra's commentary as much as I do), and it has affected your opinion on the news. Yet somehow, you managed to make a decision contrary to the bias you saw. Mission accomplished. That communities develop standards cannot be news to you. The prevailing culture here at En World is biased toward the third-party D20 Publishers. Ever has it been and ever shall it be. The 3rd party folks are present, active and helpful. When the core of the license that allows them to prosper is changed to protect a monolithic corporation, then yes, you can expect bias to lean in support of the people we know. This is a community. Communities rally around their members. It's the way of the world (or it should be). [b][/b] Me too. it happens all the time. I've seen people expressing unpopular opinions get slammed more than once (hi Snoweel :)). Hell, I've [i]been[/i] the slamee more than once (Hi Piratecate ;)) But in the final analysis, to pretend (or expect) that community standards should not reflect the community that creates them is a hard statement to get behind. You'll win no points by placing yourself as the one free thinker in Stepford man:) Lots of people here hold opinions contrary to the majority. They are allowed to express them at will (so long as Eric's Grandma doesn't bring the hammer down...fascist ol' lady :)) But nobody has to agree with them. If you have a point, try and make it. People can be swayed. But to imply that the starting point for your argument should be moved somewhere other than where the prevailing sentiment places it is not going to win you any converts. [/QUOTE]
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