Big and fast

[BluWolf]

If a medium sized creature, speed 30", becomes large does thier speed chagne to 40'?

A reference would be appreciated.

 

[graydoom]

Hmm, I guess it would make sense, but I don't think the books support it. Righteous Might doesn't up it, and advancing a creature per the MM doesn't do it, so I'll have to say that the creatures speed would stay at 30.
There is, however, a good chance that I'm missing some little ruling that mentions this, but from what I can find the speed would stay the same.

 

[Hypersmurf]

If a medium sized creature, speed 30", becomes large does thier speed chagne to 40'?

To an extent, that'd have to be a DM call.

Speed doesn't seem to be directly tied to size at all.

A kobold, size Small, has a move of 30'. A halfling has 20'.

A human, size Medium, has a move of 30'. A dwarf has 20'. A satyr has 40'.

A hill giant, size Large, has a move of 40'. An ogre has 30'.

Movement rate seems to be only indirectly tied to Size.

-Hyp.

 

[BluWolf]

Ahh lets take the Ogre for example.

The MM listing gives speed 30', but if you look at the AC breakdown it says the average ogre is wearing Hide armor. Medium armor. So is a naked ogres move 40?

Dragon issue 276 gives a real good breakdown on how to design monsters using the type approach. It gives no guidlines on assigning speeds based on size.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Ahh lets take the Ogre for example.

The MM listing gives speed 30', but if you look at the AC breakdown it says the average ogre is wearing Hide armor. Medium armor. So is a naked ogres move 40?

Of course, the Ettin is a Large creature wearing hide and still moving 40'. Should a naked Ettin move 50'?

I'd say ogres and ettins just suffer no penalty for the hides. Look at orcs, dwarfs, or fire giants, for example. They have an armored speed and a base speed listed.

-Hyp.

 

[Crothian]

Size doesn't effect speed. But by going monk or barbarian you can easily increase your base speed. Plus there are magic items galor that can do that, too.

 

[BluWolf]

After doing a pretty exhaustive compraison of the creatures of the MM with my co-DM, it appears sixe really has no direct bearing on speed. At least not in any progressive logical manor.

We are of the opinion that the answer is no.

But thanks for the input.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

If you look in the DMG, you will find under the entries of some (PC?) Races, that Dwarf, Halfling and Gnome do all have the "ability" slow. So I think speed is (at least by the rules) not based on size.
It would think otherwise if only the Dwarf would have this entry (since he is medium-size), but that isn`t the case...

 

[dcollins]

If a medium sized creature, speed 30", becomes large does thier speed chagne to 40'? A reference would be appreciated.

No. Nobody ever gets any advantages aside from those explicitly detailed in an ability, feat, or spell description.

Reference (a) is that there is no rule giving enlarged creatures extra speed. Reference (b) is the D&D FAQ, p. 42 where it reiterates that recipients of enlarge get a small bonus to Strength and "no other benefits from the spell".

 

[SpuneDagr]

You could say that when a creature gets bigger, its mass is of course greater, and the increased ability to move it gets when larger is exactly balanced by its increased mass.

Not perfect. Ehh.