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Message: <blockquote data-quote="El Mahdi" data-source="post: 5231720" data-attributes="member: 59506">These are all really good points. I guess you've hit on the biggest American conceit when it comes to this...we're an automobile culture. I didn't even realize it at the time, but as soon as I read Umbrans saying, that's exactly what I thought of: Driving.<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm    :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" /> This doesn't always hold true everywhere in the states, but for the most part, busses are seen as cheap/poor transportation. You only use them if you have to. Trains just aren't common enough anymore except in certain metro areas and maybe the east and north east (New York, Massachusetts, D.C., etc.). And air travel has gotten so expensive, and all the added fees they throw in now, that it's gotten too expensive to use unless you have to. It all just kind of reinforces the driving aspect. Our cars are still a symbol of having the freedom to just go wherever you want, whenever you want. I once looked into taking a train to my parents house (from Florida to Michigan). Amtrack runs from where I live. But the trip would have cost about 5 times more than the gas and a hotel needed to drive, and would have taken about three days (vs. the 1 1/2 to drive). And flying...forget about it. Unless you've purchased the tickets 6 months in advance, driving is probably going to be cheaper...and that's not even adding in the cost of a rental car at the destination. I guess it's just a default American assumption.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />   Yeah, another good point. My experiences in Europe are from the early to mid nineties. Things have definitely changed a bit since then.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool    :cool:"  data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /></blockquote>

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