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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cheiromancer" data-source="post: 314914" data-attributes="member: 141">We have some "metamagicked" versions of spells already on the spell lists.  fireball + delay spell = delayed blast fireballlightning bolt + chain spell = chain lightningThing is, these improved versions of the spells have the benefit of the Heighten Spell feat and the Enhance Spell (epic) feat.  In fact, if you were to construct the above spells with all three feats, what you would get is:delay (+3) + enhance (+4) + heighten (+4) = +11 levels Which translates into +4 levels when delayed blast fireball is researched.lightning bolt (3rd level) + chain (+3) + enhance (+4) + heighten (+3)= +10 levels.This translates into +3 levels when chain lightning is researched.As a rule of thumb, I ignore the "heighten" and halve the remaining metamagic bonuses.So if a bull's strength were empowered six times, I would add half the levels that six empowers would add.  So bump it to 8th level.  Provided the duration was in hours (like bull's strength is).  Or turns, if you think bull's strength lasts too long.  If the duration is in minutes, I would drop it a level, to 7th.  Which is what reiella suggests.Or, using Energy Admixture as kind of an analogy, I would bump it back up to 9th level, but give 4d4+4 to Constitution as well.</blockquote>