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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Scion" data-source="post: 1579747" data-attributes="member: 5777">No, even nonprimary melee classes use str for damage at some point. Whether something like a sling or a composite bow or whatever. But 'only' primary casters get the main benefit from the int item effectively.The corollary is pretty good. Everyone wants skill points to some degree or another, and, albiet to a lesser degree sometimes, everyone wants to be able to deal damage with certain types of attacks.If your campaign uses carrying capacity properly then that is another one, although this is generally not as important for various other reasons.But still, the comparison holds to a good degree of usefulness, taking away the skill points is like taking away the attack and damage of a str boosting item.Have you seen the skills used for cha lately? They are encounter enders in and of themselves.But even then, the cha booster still works at full capacity. Whether or not that is farther down the totem pole is for another debate, it still works 'fully'.The int item has its main use taken away. Sortof like the cha item no longer working on any skills anymore.</blockquote>