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<blockquote data-quote="Aldarc" data-source="post: 7646366" data-attributes="member: 5142">You are correct that we don't know what happened with the player referenced by the OP, but IMHO I don't think that first time players are necessarily &quot;missing the point&quot; if they were legitimately upset by this. She may have felt that her big cool moment was being unduly punished or targeted. A break of bad luck can make or break a future longterm player. And as per your own statement, did she have a good time? Probably not. So they did not all win. Some first time players may not find an issue with this, but for others it can turn them off from the game entirely. These latter players may even be amendable to having their characters die in other circumstances or later in the adventure, but a bad first experience can be game-wrecking. There are, for example, a number of threads here on ENWorld that have been entirely devoted to games that people stopped playing after one bad experience.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Aldarc, post: 7646366, member: 5142"] You are correct that we don't know what happened with the player referenced by the OP, but IMHO I don't think that first time players are necessarily "missing the point" if they were legitimately upset by this. She may have felt that her big cool moment was being unduly punished or targeted. A break of bad luck can make or break a future longterm player. And as per your own statement, did she have a good time? Probably not. So they did not all win. Some first time players may not find an issue with this, but for others it can turn them off from the game entirely. These latter players may even be amendable to having their characters die in other circumstances or later in the adventure, but a bad first experience can be game-wrecking. There are, for example, a number of threads here on ENWorld that have been entirely devoted to games that people stopped playing after one bad experience. [/QUOTE]

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