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<blockquote data-quote="fusangite" data-source="post: 1868836" data-attributes="member: 7240"><p>Well, there are a few things that could be used as standards for ordering these things:</p><p>1. Gross Physical Characteristics</p><p>2. Proximity to Original Creation: By this I mean that come creatures are described in the MM as hybrids created magically or otherwise. One can therefore see, to mix Gnostic metaphors, an original demiurge and inferior demiurges of inferior emmanations. So creatures could be ordered based on the proximity of their creation to the original creation. In this scheme, Captured Ones of the MMII would be of the lowest order.</p><p>3. Free Will: This measure would aggregate the following things (in order of priority):</p><p>(a) Adjective in the alignment descriptor with "always" creatures having the least free will. (This places angels and demons low on the hierarchy.)</p><p>(b) Absence of mental stats. (Creatures missing Int, Cha or Wis, ie. vermin, placing low.)</p><p>(c) Fixed versus rolled intelligence. (This places animals low on the hierarchy.)</p><p>(d) Sum of mental stats. </p><p>4. Similarity to Ideal Form: To now massacre Platonism, how about conceiving of one particular form of being -- an angel, a human, a dragon as the first-created being of which all subsequent beings are derivations or modifications.</p><p>5. The Monster Manual system. (It seems to be that from my reading of the knowledge skills and ranger special abilities in the PHB, characters are indeed aware of these classifications.)</p><p></p><p>I would imagine that this kind of ridiculous quixotic project would only be of interest to lore masters.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fusangite, post: 1868836, member: 7240"] Well, there are a few things that could be used as standards for ordering these things: 1. Gross Physical Characteristics 2. Proximity to Original Creation: By this I mean that come creatures are described in the MM as hybrids created magically or otherwise. One can therefore see, to mix Gnostic metaphors, an original demiurge and inferior demiurges of inferior emmanations. So creatures could be ordered based on the proximity of their creation to the original creation. In this scheme, Captured Ones of the MMII would be of the lowest order. 3. Free Will: This measure would aggregate the following things (in order of priority): (a) Adjective in the alignment descriptor with "always" creatures having the least free will. (This places angels and demons low on the hierarchy.) (b) Absence of mental stats. (Creatures missing Int, Cha or Wis, ie. vermin, placing low.) (c) Fixed versus rolled intelligence. (This places animals low on the hierarchy.) (d) Sum of mental stats. 4. Similarity to Ideal Form: To now massacre Platonism, how about conceiving of one particular form of being -- an angel, a human, a dragon as the first-created being of which all subsequent beings are derivations or modifications. 5. The Monster Manual system. (It seems to be that from my reading of the knowledge skills and ranger special abilities in the PHB, characters are indeed aware of these classifications.) I would imagine that this kind of ridiculous quixotic project would only be of interest to lore masters. [/QUOTE]
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