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<blockquote data-quote="Marandahir" data-source="post: 8133338" data-attributes="member: 6803643">Eh, I always saw the 3.5e/4e/4Essentials Warlock/Hexblade/Binder (CA/CW/ToM - PH1/HotFK/HoS/HotFW) as being the design impetus for 5e Warlocks getting a secondary build choice a la Fighting Styles - Pact of the Blade was an attempt at Hexblade, Pact of the Tome was more the Binder, and Pact of the Chains was more the Core Warlock (though I could see Chains/Tome being flipped for some 4e Warlock &gt; 5e Warlock etc build translations). I'm not sure we need a separate class for Binder; I'd prefer &quot;The Vestige&quot; as a Warlock patron and give the subclass more 3.5e Tome of Magic Binder-like qualities a la the Hexblade patron does above and beyond for Bladelocks.That said, have fun with the design. I go back and forth with my own design on whether I feel like the 4e&gt;5e Shaman should be a full separate class that casts like a Warlock but uses Wisdom, or if it should just be &quot;The Primal Spirit&quot; patron for Warlocks…</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Marandahir, post: 8133338, member: 6803643"] Eh, I always saw the 3.5e/4e/4Essentials Warlock/Hexblade/Binder (CA/CW/ToM - PH1/HotFK/HoS/HotFW) as being the design impetus for 5e Warlocks getting a secondary build choice a la Fighting Styles - Pact of the Blade was an attempt at Hexblade, Pact of the Tome was more the Binder, and Pact of the Chains was more the Core Warlock (though I could see Chains/Tome being flipped for some 4e Warlock > 5e Warlock etc build translations). I'm not sure we need a separate class for Binder; I'd prefer "The Vestige" as a Warlock patron and give the subclass more 3.5e Tome of Magic Binder-like qualities a la the Hexblade patron does above and beyond for Bladelocks. That said, have fun with the design. I go back and forth with my own design on whether I feel like the 4e>5e Shaman should be a full separate class that casts like a Warlock but uses Wisdom, or if it should just be "The Primal Spirit" patron for Warlocks… [/QUOTE]

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