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Message: <blockquote data-quote="nnms" data-source="post: 5931052" data-attributes="member: 83293">Well, i just whipped up a spreadsheet page with about as small a font as I'm comfortable with in print and managed to fit 3724 results on a page.  Given a system that uses the same die size and no more than a handful of results per rules interaction and a single page could last me a very, very long time.As well, I could put the page in a plastic sleeve and mark the numbers off with a dry/wet erase and then when it was done, it would get used again going vertically instead of horizontally.  So each page produces over 14,000 results just by going different directions.  Never mind if you then add in letting your pen fall on the first number and starting there for a session.  Or going diagonal.I think it's a psychological thing.  When it comes to philosophy I'm more of a determinist than not, so it doesn't both me.In my Basic D&D game, we play sitting on couches and whatnot rather than at a table and we have dice fall into the cushions or between the couches or whatever all the time.  The host's nephew loves it when he comes over, plays around the couches and finds "crystals!"I'm inclined to agree.I think I'd reuse mine.  I'm not sticking a few hundred results on the page, but a few thousand, and I'm willing to go any direction that I haven't yet, including diagonal and maybe even patterns.This whole black box discussion is all about DM trust.  People still have fun with AD&D1E which had the assumption that the players didn't have any real access to the rules.If resolution speed to get back to the description/story is the goal, the pre-printed sheet of results might be the best tool for the job.  Thanks for reminding me about it.  If you pick a system that uses a single die size and fill a page up with 7 point font results, and then go in multiple directions on the sheet, with changing starting positions, a single sheet could last forever.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool    :cool:"  data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" />As much as I'd like to agree with you that the removal of the focus on the dice was the cause, I'd say it was probably just a contributor and the biggest cause would be a feeling that one is free to make such declarations.  Children often assume they have it and older gamers often forget that they could.</blockquote>

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