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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 7351147" data-attributes="member: 48965"><p>Yes it is important to me, but if I was talking about a movie... say Schindler's List... I would also stress the fact that the movie would resonate very deeply with Jewish people but stating that doesn't equate to... I like Schindler's List as a movie because it has a Jewish cast... <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite5" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":confused:" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Nothing new in so far as what exactly? All superehero movies can be boiled down to villain creates problem... superhero fights and defeats villain. On the one hand you make the claim it's not a superhero movie (or not enough of a superhero movie) but then you complain it uses the basic structure of superhero movies instead of doing something different... I'm confused by what exactly you are looking for... so again, for the 3rd or 4th time I'll ask... could you name a superhero movie you feel is both a good superhero movie and that has a totally new story?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So I assume you have issues with Iron Man (remove the suit and he's just a normal guy), Captain America (He has the same type of enhanced powers as T'challa), Hawkeye, Black Widow, Winter Soldier (Remove the arm and he's not a superhero), Ant Man (without the suit and Pymm particles he's an average Joe) and so on. And yes all of these stories (I'd argue nearly all superhero movie stories) could have been told with regular people, including Ant Man's... ex-convict given a second chance must stop a mad genius from developing a weapon from stolen designs (Wow does that sound like something out of James Bond). The powers add to the story, just like in any superhero movie but they aren't necessary to tell the story at a high level. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Black Panther's vibranium suit and claws are just as distinctive as Cap's shield... and he's way past Black Widow and Hawkeye in strength, speed, agility, etc. this was both shown and explained throughout Civil War and Black Panther which again leads me to believe you may have missed some things in the movie. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You keep saying this and I've asked you to throw out some superhero movies (preferably siungle superhero movies) that do stand out and yet all you've done is repeat this without any type of explanation. So again I'll ask... what was a good/great superhero movie that did something totally different and whose story couldn't be told without super powers?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, but I'm asking why is that notable when it doesn't happen in any of the other origin story movies?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 7351147, member: 48965"] Yes it is important to me, but if I was talking about a movie... say Schindler's List... I would also stress the fact that the movie would resonate very deeply with Jewish people but stating that doesn't equate to... I like Schindler's List as a movie because it has a Jewish cast... :confused: Nothing new in so far as what exactly? All superehero movies can be boiled down to villain creates problem... superhero fights and defeats villain. On the one hand you make the claim it's not a superhero movie (or not enough of a superhero movie) but then you complain it uses the basic structure of superhero movies instead of doing something different... I'm confused by what exactly you are looking for... so again, for the 3rd or 4th time I'll ask... could you name a superhero movie you feel is both a good superhero movie and that has a totally new story? So I assume you have issues with Iron Man (remove the suit and he's just a normal guy), Captain America (He has the same type of enhanced powers as T'challa), Hawkeye, Black Widow, Winter Soldier (Remove the arm and he's not a superhero), Ant Man (without the suit and Pymm particles he's an average Joe) and so on. And yes all of these stories (I'd argue nearly all superhero movie stories) could have been told with regular people, including Ant Man's... ex-convict given a second chance must stop a mad genius from developing a weapon from stolen designs (Wow does that sound like something out of James Bond). The powers add to the story, just like in any superhero movie but they aren't necessary to tell the story at a high level. Black Panther's vibranium suit and claws are just as distinctive as Cap's shield... and he's way past Black Widow and Hawkeye in strength, speed, agility, etc. this was both shown and explained throughout Civil War and Black Panther which again leads me to believe you may have missed some things in the movie. You keep saying this and I've asked you to throw out some superhero movies (preferably siungle superhero movies) that do stand out and yet all you've done is repeat this without any type of explanation. So again I'll ask... what was a good/great superhero movie that did something totally different and whose story couldn't be told without super powers? Yes, but I'm asking why is that notable when it doesn't happen in any of the other origin story movies? [/QUOTE]
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