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<blockquote data-quote="Derren" data-source="post: 7351310" data-attributes="member: 2518"><p>And for me such things do not matter at all for rating a movie</p><p></p><p>Mainstream movies with an original story are pretty rare. Thats why to be a great movie in my eyes it has to either do something special or be the best at something. Ant Man for example does that in my eyes because Heist movie + shrinking and ants is new and memorable.</p><p>Black Panther does not because not only is it a pretty conventional story it also doesn't really do anything special in my eyes.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Guess why Iron Man 3 was so disliked. And yes, most CapAm movies are not really superhero movies either. But the advantage he has over BP is his shield which he actively uses. Black Panthers suit on the other hand is passive.</p><p>Sure you could remove all superpowers from Ant Man to have a regular heist movie, but what do you have to change to do that? First you have to find an entirely different premise as keeping the superpowers out of peoples hands is the entire point of the movie and you have to completely change the 2nd half of the movie, even bringing in new characters to take over the roles of the ants. The superpower is pretty central to the movie.</p><p>On the other hand, what would change if BP had no superpowers?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Its not about power.</p><p>CapAm throws his shield around. BP wears his suit. Active use vs. passive use.</p><p>I would even argue that Hawkeyes bow is more memorable than BPs suit.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They were just normal ones with vibranium horn.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Derren, post: 7351310, member: 2518"] And for me such things do not matter at all for rating a movie Mainstream movies with an original story are pretty rare. Thats why to be a great movie in my eyes it has to either do something special or be the best at something. Ant Man for example does that in my eyes because Heist movie + shrinking and ants is new and memorable. Black Panther does not because not only is it a pretty conventional story it also doesn't really do anything special in my eyes. Guess why Iron Man 3 was so disliked. And yes, most CapAm movies are not really superhero movies either. But the advantage he has over BP is his shield which he actively uses. Black Panthers suit on the other hand is passive. Sure you could remove all superpowers from Ant Man to have a regular heist movie, but what do you have to change to do that? First you have to find an entirely different premise as keeping the superpowers out of peoples hands is the entire point of the movie and you have to completely change the 2nd half of the movie, even bringing in new characters to take over the roles of the ants. The superpower is pretty central to the movie. On the other hand, what would change if BP had no superpowers? Its not about power. CapAm throws his shield around. BP wears his suit. Active use vs. passive use. I would even argue that Hawkeyes bow is more memorable than BPs suit. They were just normal ones with vibranium horn. [/QUOTE]
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