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<blockquote data-quote="The Souljourner" data-source="post: 1154356" data-attributes="member: 1622">I don't mind fighting against high challenge ratings, in fact I prefer it.&nbsp; However, in this case, only the wizard could do anything to harm the opponent.&nbsp; I had to go and use the wizard's wand of magic missile in order to not be completely useless, and the cleric was totally hosed.&nbsp; +35 grapple was just impossible for him to win against, regardless of rolls.&nbsp; The fighter was usless, relegated to shooting one crossbow bolt per round (shoot, reload), which we weren't even sure was hurting it.The druid used his one decent damage spell (flamestrike), and then did his best to get the heck out of the way.Sucky fight.&nbsp; And yeah, more XP won't help, but it'll make us feel like the DM recognizes that it was an exceptionally hard fight.Here's the kicker - this fight was from a 3.0 module, and it had the challenge rating down as 9!&nbsp; After the fight I had opened the MM to look at black puddings, and the exact one we were fighting was 12 in 3.5.&nbsp; Can you imagine this thing that could have decimated the party being the same CR as our APL?Crazyness.Anyway, sorry to sound whiny and stuff, it was just a very frustrating session.-The Souljourner</blockquote>

[QUOTE="The Souljourner, post: 1154356, member: 1622"] I don't mind fighting against high challenge ratings, in fact I prefer it. However, in this case, only the wizard could do anything to harm the opponent. I had to go and use the wizard's wand of magic missile in order to not be completely useless, and the cleric was totally hosed. +35 grapple was just impossible for him to win against, regardless of rolls. The fighter was usless, relegated to shooting one crossbow bolt per round (shoot, reload), which we weren't even sure was hurting it. The druid used his one decent damage spell (flamestrike), and then did his best to get the heck out of the way. Sucky fight. And yeah, more XP won't help, but it'll make us feel like the DM recognizes that it was an exceptionally hard fight. Here's the kicker - this fight was from a 3.0 module, and it had the challenge rating down as 9! After the fight I had opened the MM to look at black puddings, and the exact one we were fighting was 12 in 3.5. Can you imagine this thing that could have decimated the party being the same CR as our APL? Crazyness. Anyway, sorry to sound whiny and stuff, it was just a very frustrating session. -The Souljourner [/QUOTE]

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