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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 7867743" data-attributes="member: 177"><p>I dunno. Gamora found the location all on her own. She's physically powerful, but has no information-gathering powers to speak of. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't know about that. The things have been around literally forever. There is sufficient lore that Thanos knows that if he brings them together he can pull off his plan. Odin, Thor, Loki, and by extension a bunch of other Asgardians who deal with Odin's treasury knew what they were. The Dark Elves knew what they were. The Ancient One knew. The Collector knew - and put out contracts for their retrieval, and low-life Ravagers could find them. It actualy looks like, once you get off Earth, everyone and their grandmother knows at least a little about them.</p><p></p><p>It seems to me that it is not surprising Gamora could find them - just needed legwork from someone other than Thanos and his most creepy poor-social-skills minions to find it out.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>See above. Maybe stuff comes together for someone to try every generation or so. Most of them are power-hungry idiots, and they <em>can't</em> get the Soul Stone because they don't actually love anyone but themselves. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Dude, the whole point is that if it is cheap to use, it <em>wouldn't remain secret</em>. Word of a good deal gets around. If it is cheap, the people who die and come back again <em>would talk about their experience</em> when they got back. </p><p></p><p>Thus, it isn't cheap, because that would have become known. Since it isn't known, it isn't cheap - you don't get your quarter back when you return the carriage. </p><p></p><p>In the comics continuity, the Souls lost to the stone <em>can</em> be gotten back. But it is far more complicated than getting your deposit back when you return it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Tony was poster child for bad life decisions. Tony's life was causing the problems he then had to go fix. Do not listen to Tony. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Then... how does the Stone get there at all? If nobody ever takes it back, why would you have a deposit-bottle mechanism on the thing? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, that doesn't suggest there's a deposit-bottle mechanism. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Presumably Cap. I mean, if Cap doesn't know and bring her back, then she's stuck on Vormir - interstellar travel's not in her power set. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>All the Avengers knew she was the cost - and Cap comes back for Tony's funeral, to turn the shield over. Do you think Cap would <em>let Clint Barton and the rest live with the guilt</em> when he could remove it? That's not how Cap rolls.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 7867743, member: 177"] I dunno. Gamora found the location all on her own. She's physically powerful, but has no information-gathering powers to speak of. I don't know about that. The things have been around literally forever. There is sufficient lore that Thanos knows that if he brings them together he can pull off his plan. Odin, Thor, Loki, and by extension a bunch of other Asgardians who deal with Odin's treasury knew what they were. The Dark Elves knew what they were. The Ancient One knew. The Collector knew - and put out contracts for their retrieval, and low-life Ravagers could find them. It actualy looks like, once you get off Earth, everyone and their grandmother knows at least a little about them. It seems to me that it is not surprising Gamora could find them - just needed legwork from someone other than Thanos and his most creepy poor-social-skills minions to find it out. See above. Maybe stuff comes together for someone to try every generation or so. Most of them are power-hungry idiots, and they [I]can't[/I] get the Soul Stone because they don't actually love anyone but themselves. Dude, the whole point is that if it is cheap to use, it [I]wouldn't remain secret[/I]. Word of a good deal gets around. If it is cheap, the people who die and come back again [I]would talk about their experience[/I] when they got back. Thus, it isn't cheap, because that would have become known. Since it isn't known, it isn't cheap - you don't get your quarter back when you return the carriage. In the comics continuity, the Souls lost to the stone [I]can[/I] be gotten back. But it is far more complicated than getting your deposit back when you return it. Tony was poster child for bad life decisions. Tony's life was causing the problems he then had to go fix. Do not listen to Tony. :p Then... how does the Stone get there at all? If nobody ever takes it back, why would you have a deposit-bottle mechanism on the thing? Again, that doesn't suggest there's a deposit-bottle mechanism. Presumably Cap. I mean, if Cap doesn't know and bring her back, then she's stuck on Vormir - interstellar travel's not in her power set. All the Avengers knew she was the cost - and Cap comes back for Tony's funeral, to turn the shield over. Do you think Cap would [I]let Clint Barton and the rest live with the guilt[/I] when he could remove it? That's not how Cap rolls. [/QUOTE]
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