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<blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 7868559" data-attributes="member: 6704184"><p>Okay, probably the last thing I’ll say on this, because I feel like we barely disagree and dissecting this is making it seem like we are further apart than we are. </p><p></p><p>My issue with the bit isn’t really that Carlin pokes fun at American consumerism via fat people, although that has always bothered me.*</p><p></p><p>The issue is that while using fat people as a prop to draw in the audience, he also still actually really does blame fat people for being too stupid to not get fat. The fact that he turns that around on the audience doesn’t change how ugly it is, or how objectively incorrect. </p><p></p><p>He gets very close, and I’m not sure I really 100% blame him for being wrong on it since most people were back then, but he is still wrong. </p><p></p><p>Obesity isn’t an epidemic because of people eating too many ounces of food per meal, or too many meals. It’s an epidemic because there is little external incentive to be strenuously active for most people (and humans are evolutionarily inclined toward “efficiency” aka laziness), and because all pre-prepared foods contain vastly too much salt and sugar, and are too highly processed, so the same poundage of food is higher in calories, and more importantly sugar specifically. </p><p></p><p>And that is a thing that “the real owners” have done to us knowingly because they don’t care if their wealth comes from ruining the health of multiple generations. </p><p></p><p>*Carlin meant well, but using a common social punching bag as a punching bag in your bit to draw the audience in doesn’t become good just because you’re gonna make a really good point at the end. </p><p></p><p>The ends don’t justify the means.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="doctorbadwolf, post: 7868559, member: 6704184"] Okay, probably the last thing I’ll say on this, because I feel like we barely disagree and dissecting this is making it seem like we are further apart than we are. My issue with the bit isn’t really that Carlin pokes fun at American consumerism via fat people, although that has always bothered me.* The issue is that while using fat people as a prop to draw in the audience, he also still actually really does blame fat people for being too stupid to not get fat. The fact that he turns that around on the audience doesn’t change how ugly it is, or how objectively incorrect. He gets very close, and I’m not sure I really 100% blame him for being wrong on it since most people were back then, but he is still wrong. Obesity isn’t an epidemic because of people eating too many ounces of food per meal, or too many meals. It’s an epidemic because there is little external incentive to be strenuously active for most people (and humans are evolutionarily inclined toward “efficiency” aka laziness), and because all pre-prepared foods contain vastly too much salt and sugar, and are too highly processed, so the same poundage of food is higher in calories, and more importantly sugar specifically. And that is a thing that “the real owners” have done to us knowingly because they don’t care if their wealth comes from ruining the health of multiple generations. *Carlin meant well, but using a common social punching bag as a punching bag in your bit to draw the audience in doesn’t become good just because you’re gonna make a really good point at the end. The ends don’t justify the means. [/QUOTE]
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