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<blockquote data-quote="Gadget" data-source="post: 7091849" data-attributes="member: 23716"><p>Assuming variant human is an option, yes.  Assuming feats themselves (an optional rule) are used, then yes.  One could just pick dwarf as a race (medium armor proficiency) and be fairly well off as well.  I'll take your word on 'hitting like a truck', assuming you prioritize strength and choose a high damage two-handed pact weapon, so you will be decent in melee.  You have spent significant resources to make yourself so.  A Book Pact Warlock could do almost as well with <em>Shillelagh</em>, <em>Green Flame Blade</em> or <em>Booming Blade</em>, but that too would be a significant investment.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well said.  I'm sure you have a fun character.  While I can't speak for others, I think the 'arguments' against the single classed blade'lock seem to stem from the fact that the flavor implies a melee-ish character, but does not deliver such without a fair bit of system mastery and character resource investment beyond the obvious, or a character/play style that heavily emphasizes the light mobile skirmisher aspect.  Especially in games that don't use all the optional rules like feats, multi-classing, variant human, etc.   </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Point taken, and I don't think anyone wants them to outdo fighters (at least not without a significant investment in limited use resources), just an effective 'gish' character.  And I think many are coming at it from an optimization angle as well.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gadget, post: 7091849, member: 23716"] Assuming variant human is an option, yes. Assuming feats themselves (an optional rule) are used, then yes. One could just pick dwarf as a race (medium armor proficiency) and be fairly well off as well. I'll take your word on 'hitting like a truck', assuming you prioritize strength and choose a high damage two-handed pact weapon, so you will be decent in melee. You have spent significant resources to make yourself so. A Book Pact Warlock could do almost as well with [I]Shillelagh[/I], [I]Green Flame Blade[/I] or [I]Booming Blade[/I], but that too would be a significant investment. Well said. I'm sure you have a fun character. While I can't speak for others, I think the 'arguments' against the single classed blade'lock seem to stem from the fact that the flavor implies a melee-ish character, but does not deliver such without a fair bit of system mastery and character resource investment beyond the obvious, or a character/play style that heavily emphasizes the light mobile skirmisher aspect. Especially in games that don't use all the optional rules like feats, multi-classing, variant human, etc. Point taken, and I don't think anyone wants them to outdo fighters (at least not without a significant investment in limited use resources), just an effective 'gish' character. And I think many are coming at it from an optimization angle as well. [/QUOTE]
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