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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8870777" data-attributes="member: 18">I'm very confused by this because it seems like you're complaining about exactly the themes that permeate the original movie.Did you think it was a movie about a hero cop doing the right thing or something? Because like, it wasn't. It's noir. He's a killer essentially working for a corporation killing rogue slaves who are basically humans, and he's probably one too. It was never a &quot;cop drama&quot;, it was absolutely &quot;cop trauma&quot;.I mean &quot;today's news&quot;? Buddy, this was the approach in 1982. If 1982 is too modern for you, I'm not sure what to tell you.This seems a lot like someone buying Dungeon Crawl Classics and complaining about the &quot;death funnel&quot; lol. What did you expect?With Judge Dredd and Cyberpunk they're very different things. Judge Dredd judges aren't meant to be good people, they're just brutal enforcers in a society that's basically collapsed, and sometimes they make the hellish world a slightly better place (the PC ones anyway). The criminals they deal are generally not people fighting for a better tomorrow, or rogue slaves or the like, but rather people preying on those even weaker than them. I mean, in Judge Dredd if you had a Blade Runner situation, Dredd would find a way to shut down the people making the replicants, whether that was busting into the boardroom and judging them, or by causing their factory to &quot;accidentally&quot; explode due to the gunfight he decided to have in it or whatever. And he would be distinctly vexed by having to shoot the replicants. Not that it'd stop him, but that stoic face would be frowning just smidge more than usual.And that's the thing - just like the original Blade Runner, you should feel pretty dirty doing that job. You're not &quot;doing the right thing&quot;. You're cleaning up the mess of hugely amoral (or even evil) corporations making megabucks selling slaves. How would that ever be clean?Cyberpunk the norm is that you play the criminals (edgerunners), doing crimes, so that's a whole other thing.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8870777, member: 18"] I'm very confused by this because it seems like you're complaining about exactly the themes that permeate the original movie. Did you think it was a movie about a hero cop doing the right thing or something? Because like, it wasn't. It's noir. He's a killer essentially working for a corporation killing [I]rogue slaves[/I] who are basically humans, and he's probably one too. It was never a "cop drama", it was absolutely "cop trauma". I mean "today's news"? Buddy, this was the approach in 1982. If 1982 is too modern for you, I'm not sure what to tell you. This seems a lot like someone buying Dungeon Crawl Classics and complaining about the "death funnel" lol. What did you expect? With Judge Dredd and Cyberpunk they're very different things. Judge Dredd judges aren't meant to be good people, they're just brutal enforcers in a society that's basically collapsed, and sometimes they make the hellish world a slightly better place (the PC ones anyway). The criminals they deal are generally not people fighting for a better tomorrow, or rogue slaves or the like, but rather people preying on those even weaker than them. I mean, in Judge Dredd if you had a Blade Runner situation, Dredd would find a way to shut down the people making the replicants, whether that was busting into the boardroom and judging them, or by causing their factory to "accidentally" explode due to the gunfight he decided to have in it or whatever. And he would be distinctly vexed by having to shoot the replicants. Not that it'd stop him, but that stoic face would be frowning just smidge more than usual. And that's the thing - just like the original Blade Runner, you [I]should[/I] feel pretty dirty doing that job. You're not "doing the right thing". You're cleaning up the mess of hugely amoral (or even evil) corporations making megabucks selling slaves. How would that ever be clean? Cyberpunk the norm is that you play the criminals (edgerunners), doing crimes, so that's a whole other thing. [/QUOTE]

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