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Bladed Gauntlet and Mercurial Greatsword shafted by senseless errata!?
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<blockquote data-quote="Anubis" data-source="post: 94662" data-attributes="member: 2358"><p>I will now offer PROOF that the original versions of the bladed gauntlet and the mercurial greatsword are fair and balanced, making the errata unnecessary and senseless.</p><p></p><p>First, one must consider the differences between simple, martial, and exotic weapons. Style? No. Power is the key. Martial weapons are usually more powerful than simple weapons, and exotic weapons are similarly more powerful than martial weapons.</p><p></p><p>For example, look at the bastard sword. It is a Medium exotic weapon and can be wielded in one hand, yet it offers 1d10 damage. That is more than the similar longsword, which is a Medium martial weapon. The ONLY exception to the power rule appears to be the kukri. (Why ANYONE would use this weapon is beyond my understanding. It is worthless and inferior to ALL simple and martial weapons in every way!)</p><p></p><p>With that said, let us examine both the bladed gauntlet and the mercurial greatsword. This is the proof I offer.</p><p></p><p>Exotic weapons offer a power boost over martial weapons, but usually cost a feat to use. In terms of power, if you accept the errata on the bladed gauntlet, it becomes inferior in almost every way to the rapier, a martial weapon. That does not follow the general rule of exotic weapons being more powerful. See for yourself. [Rapier, Medium Martial, 3 lb., 1d6/18-20/x2 crit; Bladed Gauntlet, Small Exotic, 4 lb., 1d6/19-20/x2 crit] See my point? Considering the errata, there is now no logical reason WHATSOEVER to pick the bladed gauntlet over the rapier. (For those of you who believe that the bladed gauntlet being immune to disarming is reason for it to be exotic, I point you to the normal gauntlet, a simple weapon with the same quality. Besides, the rapier is a Medium weapon that the Weapon Finesse feat may be applied to, making such arguments completely invalid as both weapons have special properties.)</p><p></p><p>This is proof that the bladed gauntlet must have a threat range of 17-20. That is the quality that makes the weapon an exotic weapon. I will admit, however, that because the rapier is Medium and not Small, perhaps it is not the best comparison. Want more proof, then? Compare the damage of the bladed gauntlet and the handaxe. [Handaxe, Small Martial, 5 lb., 1d6/x3 crit] Assuming an 11 is needed to hit, out of 40 attacks, the handaxe will average 20 hits with 2 threats and 1 critical hit for an average of 77 damage; the bladed gauntlet will average 20 hits with 8 threats and 4 critical hits for 84 damage. That's only 0.35 more points of damage per hit, even with the threat range of 17-20! How is that unbalanced, considering the bladed gauntlet requires a feat to be used properly?</p><p></p><p>The mercurial greatsword is slightly easier to find proof for, but is also much less of a problem. Let's compare the original mercurial greatsword to the greatsword. [Mercurial Greatsword, Large Exotic, 17 lb., 2d8/x4 crit; Greatsword, Large Martial, 15 lb., 2d6/19-20/x2 crit] Again, assuming an 11 is needed to hit, out of 40 attacks, the greatsword will average 20 hits with 4 threats and 2 critical hits for an average of 154 damage; the mercurial greatsword will average 20 hits with 2 threats and 1 critical hit for an average of 207 damage. Remember, however, that the mercurial greatsword weight three more pounds, requires a feat, gives HUGE penalties for using it untrained, and costs twelve times more than the scythe. Considering the mercurial greatsword is exotic, is it not reasonable for it to do 2.65 more points of damage per hit? How would that be unbalanced considering what must be put into it?</p><p></p><p>I have given proof that the errata on the bladed gauntlet and the mercurial greatsword is unnecessary and unfair. I rest my case.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Anubis, post: 94662, member: 2358"] I will now offer PROOF that the original versions of the bladed gauntlet and the mercurial greatsword are fair and balanced, making the errata unnecessary and senseless. First, one must consider the differences between simple, martial, and exotic weapons. Style? No. Power is the key. Martial weapons are usually more powerful than simple weapons, and exotic weapons are similarly more powerful than martial weapons. For example, look at the bastard sword. It is a Medium exotic weapon and can be wielded in one hand, yet it offers 1d10 damage. That is more than the similar longsword, which is a Medium martial weapon. The ONLY exception to the power rule appears to be the kukri. (Why ANYONE would use this weapon is beyond my understanding. It is worthless and inferior to ALL simple and martial weapons in every way!) With that said, let us examine both the bladed gauntlet and the mercurial greatsword. This is the proof I offer. Exotic weapons offer a power boost over martial weapons, but usually cost a feat to use. In terms of power, if you accept the errata on the bladed gauntlet, it becomes inferior in almost every way to the rapier, a martial weapon. That does not follow the general rule of exotic weapons being more powerful. See for yourself. [Rapier, Medium Martial, 3 lb., 1d6/18-20/x2 crit; Bladed Gauntlet, Small Exotic, 4 lb., 1d6/19-20/x2 crit] See my point? Considering the errata, there is now no logical reason WHATSOEVER to pick the bladed gauntlet over the rapier. (For those of you who believe that the bladed gauntlet being immune to disarming is reason for it to be exotic, I point you to the normal gauntlet, a simple weapon with the same quality. Besides, the rapier is a Medium weapon that the Weapon Finesse feat may be applied to, making such arguments completely invalid as both weapons have special properties.) This is proof that the bladed gauntlet must have a threat range of 17-20. That is the quality that makes the weapon an exotic weapon. I will admit, however, that because the rapier is Medium and not Small, perhaps it is not the best comparison. Want more proof, then? Compare the damage of the bladed gauntlet and the handaxe. [Handaxe, Small Martial, 5 lb., 1d6/x3 crit] Assuming an 11 is needed to hit, out of 40 attacks, the handaxe will average 20 hits with 2 threats and 1 critical hit for an average of 77 damage; the bladed gauntlet will average 20 hits with 8 threats and 4 critical hits for 84 damage. That's only 0.35 more points of damage per hit, even with the threat range of 17-20! How is that unbalanced, considering the bladed gauntlet requires a feat to be used properly? The mercurial greatsword is slightly easier to find proof for, but is also much less of a problem. Let's compare the original mercurial greatsword to the greatsword. [Mercurial Greatsword, Large Exotic, 17 lb., 2d8/x4 crit; Greatsword, Large Martial, 15 lb., 2d6/19-20/x2 crit] Again, assuming an 11 is needed to hit, out of 40 attacks, the greatsword will average 20 hits with 4 threats and 2 critical hits for an average of 154 damage; the mercurial greatsword will average 20 hits with 2 threats and 1 critical hit for an average of 207 damage. Remember, however, that the mercurial greatsword weight three more pounds, requires a feat, gives HUGE penalties for using it untrained, and costs twelve times more than the scythe. Considering the mercurial greatsword is exotic, is it not reasonable for it to do 2.65 more points of damage per hit? How would that be unbalanced considering what must be put into it? I have given proof that the errata on the bladed gauntlet and the mercurial greatsword is unnecessary and unfair. I rest my case. [/QUOTE]
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