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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 7176593" data-attributes="member: 6696971">Alright, have some good system stuff to analyze here now!Just a couple of things for those reading along who don't understand what happened here:1)  GM denied the Slide's attempt to negotiate Position for Effect.2)  GM adjudicated the Hound's attempt to make a Set Up move as an Assist move instead.3)  GM adjudicated that instead of the Command Action doing all the heavy lifting here to resolve the immediate problem, its being discretized into two separate procedures with the order of operations being:a)  Command determines if the lackey ("Scarecrow") complies with the PCs' demands...then...b)  a GM Fortune roll should determine what happens when the NPCs interact.  (p34; "When you need to make a determination about a situation the PCs aren’t directly involved in and don’t want to simply decide the outcome.")I think it can be up for debate of "directly involved" is meant to mean "offscreen" (eg a gang Turf battle or a takeover or a Bluecoat crackdown or something) or not, but you can handle it both ways (Command handling all of it or going Command > Fortune).  If you go with the latter, you're bumping up the grit, the risk, and dampening the abstraction, so that is certainly a (legit) table decision.So (for anyone reading along trying to understand the game) we have two mechanical things going on here; Position/Effect Negotiation and adjudicating Assist vs Setup.  I'm going to smash them together below as if this was going down a the table.Risky/Limited as the initial default sounds good to me, and your reasoning to being resistant to Position/Effect Negotiation of the Slide is certainly fair enough and makes sense.  However, what if the player of the Hound says:Hound:  "Well, while my guy is going in the middle of <Slide's> Command move (so it makes sense to adjudicate as Assist, thus eat 1 stress for +1d), I'm thinking my guy is going before the lackey who is doing the heavy lifting here.  I'm thinking I'm increasing his Potency, by inspiring him to put his back into this thing.  So can I increase the Effect from Limited to Standard maybe?"At the table, the GM would convey that their going with the Command then Fortune roll.  So then the Hound says..."alright, well...Set Up doesn't work directly with Fortune Rolls.  How about this?  Can I just give the lackey an extra die for a Major Advantage due to my...errrr...inspiration?"[HR][/HR]Obviously the outcome would be the same; they both got a 6 so they get Good Results/some of what they want (assuming "some of what they want" is a confrontation for the gang members after "Scarecrow" shows back up and subsequently insults them).  But what do you think about the above?</blockquote>

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