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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 7246185" data-attributes="member: 16814">Sure, but aren't things already going off plan if the wizard is taking ranged or melee hits?  At this point we're regulating the high AC to a contingency plan in case you're attacked while acting as a wizard.  That certainly doesn't warrant the claim you're stealing a fighter shtick.  it's entirely passive and dependent on being attacked by AC targeting attacks (a large number, granted).  It's not superior to the effects of other traditions, it's on par.  Good, not great option for tradition abilities.  Also, high AC rapidly depreciates as you level.Exactly, having a high AC doesn't take the fighter's shtick, because high AC is just part of the fighter shtick.  The other bits are effective weapon attacks, high hit points, and combat tier attack versatility.  All of that is the fighter shtick, and the best the bladesinger has to offer is the ability to get a slightly better AC with high stats.  The extra attack the BS gets is constantly weighed against the far more effective cantrip use, which obviates the extra attack (when I first read the class, the effective uselessness of extra attack given the melee weapon cantrips leapt out at me), and the BS melee attacks are going to be weak comparative to just about any other class.  Hitpoints are a clear loser.  And the only real versatility in attacking the BS gets is switching up cantrips, which means more melee focused cantrips and less utility or ranged -- bad choices for a primary wizard.  The bladesinger can get a high AC, but this isn't taking anything away from the fighter.  If the bladesinger tries to act like the fighter, she's not as effective and has a high risk of death outright.  If the bladesinger acts like a wizard with an eye towards occasionally fighter-ing, the opportunity costs in reserved spell slots to enable the melee shtick means she's worse as a wizard when trying to be a poor fighter substitute.  Again, like the Mystic Theurge, the option costs for bladesinger mean she's not as effective at either role, and those roles do not synergize in any way so the net effect is a less effect wizard risking death by trying to be a poor fighter.</blockquote>

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