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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 7252155" data-attributes="member: 16814">My argument is my argument, which was the question I answered.Further, you single play through of an optimized combat fully supporting the bladesinger that then extraploates to a day that doesn't require extensive resource expediture doesn't invalidate my claim, it says that the best case scenario is that the bladesinger gets to be half a wizard.  You may find it persuasive, but i don't find cherry picked, best case scenarios to be very impressive.That's the resource cost just to enable your baseline assumptions, though.  A hit and a failed concentration check put the bladesinger in a very bad spot, for instance.  A crit can't be ignored and outright ends the bladesinger.  Having a cleric doing nothing with their spell slots but enable the bladesinger isn't sustainable, either.  You claim 1 first and 1 second, but your scenario had a second 1st and 4, 4!, spellls from the cleric to enable the scenario (the two healing words to prevent one more hit from dropping both the bladesinger AND the cleric, for instance).  That's nuts, and insisting it is low effort is equally nuts.  You're completely ignoring all the confounders here and focusing on best cases.Your two non-casters both are selected to optimize ranged combat and kite.  Your cleric did nothing but prop up the bladesinger.  You had the giants act stupidly and spread fire while allowing themselves to be affected by the bladesinger.  You picked your party and their abilities to optimize the bladesinger.You've made the assertion that wizards outshine fighters without bladesinger as a tradition.  I agreed with you.  Do I need to explain to you, now, how that works, or did I utterly misunderstand why you made that statement to begin with?  Because I assumed it was the ability to trivialize fights and obstacles with spell usage, which requires slots, which the bladesinger is using to prop up her career as a fighter.So you can pick a party setup that props up the bladesinger and then claim that the bladesinger is the star?  Not terribly interested.</blockquote>

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