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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ph0rk" data-source="post: 8138358" data-attributes="member: 16266">to make up for a 14 point deficit? A flametongue would do that, but the bladesinger could have a flametongue, too. The bladesinger is getting three strikes, here - just like the fighter is, and they have a better damage bonus than the fighter (+10 instead of +5), and can lay cantrip damage on top of that.Its a reasonable assumption that if the DM will change the rules to allow the bladesinger to dexify and PAM a stave, they'll give them nice magical ones, too.You're right - they're still a wizard. The class with arguably the most options and versatility in the game, only in this case with a subclass that already has great at-will damage has even better at-will damage. Good AC, tons of slots for shield and absorb elements, and Song of Defense. It is a strong subclass, and this is a straight damage upgrade for it - just as it already got one (the TCoE cantrip/attack change). It was good before, it's great now, and it doesn't need more.In this case the bladesinger can absolutely hang with the fighter, blow the rogue out of the water (with at-will damage, too), and still do all their fun wizard stuff; and because of how PAM works there's no conflict with somatic components and dual wielding to get that bonus action attack, nor is there any startup time like there would be with Melf's Minute Meteors or Crown of Stars (and they don't have to spend any resources, either, other than bladesong). And all of that is before considering how easy it is for a bladesinger to gain advantage relative to a fighter.It is a strong archetype for a strong class - and this is a buff that interacts with the subclass's strengths in a strong positive way.</blockquote>

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