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<blockquote data-quote="dcollins" data-source="post: 2500528" data-attributes="member: 876">Of course, that is basically the example that the DMG uses to assert that &quot;Sometimes it's important to impose ad hoc simultaneity&quot; (&quot;Combat: Keeping Things Moving: Simultaneity&quot;, 3.0 DMG p. 62). One of the 3 options given there is in fact &quot;Don't tell Tordek about the trap until the end of the round&quot;. I agree with the original poster that treating this as a &quot;5 ft. adjustment&quot; doesn't seem accurate. Also, there's really not enough time to pull off a full attack action mid-fall because it takes only a fraction of the duration of the round (unlike an full-round gallop of a horse). Having thought about it, as DM, my gut says to require a move action if the intent is to descend a few stories. It's highly subjective, but seems like some support in the DMG for this.You could also say &quot;You can't 5 ft. step into the air, because that's not a valid space for movement.&quot; Just like you can't 5 ft. step up 5 ft. into the air.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="dcollins, post: 2500528, member: 876"] Of course, that is basically the example that the DMG uses to assert that "Sometimes it's important to impose ad hoc simultaneity" ("Combat: Keeping Things Moving: Simultaneity", 3.0 DMG p. 62). One of the 3 options given there is in fact "Don't tell Tordek about the trap until the end of the round". I agree with the original poster that treating this as a "5 ft. adjustment" doesn't seem accurate. Also, there's really not enough time to pull off a full attack action mid-fall because it takes only a fraction of the duration of the round (unlike an full-round gallop of a horse). Having thought about it, as DM, my gut says to require a move action if the intent is to descend a few stories. It's highly subjective, but seems like some support in the DMG for this. You could also say "You can't 5 ft. step into the air, because that's not a valid space for movement." Just like you can't 5 ft. step up 5 ft. into the air. [/QUOTE]

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