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Message: <blockquote data-quote="SBMC" data-source="post: 2503861" data-attributes="member: 30040">I used to get accused of not showing enough "evidence" of what I wrote; now it's to much…I guess I need to find a happy medium. I used to get accused of not showing enough "evidence" of what I wrote; now it's to much…I guess I need to find a happy medium.Sorry ya feel that way - but if someone wants to step off the edge of a cliff and do it carelessly (as in actually stepping off) then they are going to pay a price - go to an empty pool and "jump down" into it. Then go back up and "walk of the edge" into it. After your out of the hospital let me know if you see a difference there. That is why I demand max damage. Not to mention i it is onl 20 feet or so - that is still only 12 poins of damage. To a combatant (Figher, barb, Ranger, etc.) that is not a whole lot unlss your 1st or 2nd level. But then again at that level you only get one attack anyway - so just jump down.If they choose to "jump down" then they get the advantage of the rules. Also think about how long it takes to fall - not much (someone above calculated it)The only thing the guy in the original post needed to do was to jump down, as defined in the rules, and the DM (I would to) allow him to attack at any time during his fall - a single attack that is. If his falling would take more than one round I would allow a full attack during a round in which he did not "jump off" or "land" as normal.Not to mention what would you let this guy to use for an action seeing as he made his full attack and 5 foot move in a round - exactly how would he land? If you are saying you would allow a character to jump off a ledge with a five foot move and make a full attack then that is your preference; the starter of the thread asked for clarification of something that is not clearly defined in the rules.One thing is also being forgotten - a round is a mere 6 seconds of time; how much do you think you can do in that time?</blockquote>

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