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Blatant abuse of the five foot step?
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<blockquote data-quote="Silveras" data-source="post: 2505777" data-attributes="member: 6271"><p>The issue here is not about the letter of the rules forbidding such an action; I do not see anyone saying that at all. What I *do* see is people protesting that the action does not pass the "sniff test"; that it is a blatant attempt to exploit an area where the rules are weak. </p><p></p><p>1: The player is using his knowledge of game mechanics to decide that his character has enough hit points to easily survive the fall. The *character* does not know that. Without magic like <em>levitate</em> or <em>fly</em>, most *characters* should expect that they are risking being killed or are at least quite likely to break one or more bones. </p><p></p><p>2: Because the rules frown on incapacitating characters, they present "Damage to Specific Areas" as a variant only (DMG p.27). The player is also capitalizing on this, with respect to the point I just mentioned. </p><p></p><p>3: The player is exploiting a mistaken interpretation of Falling vs. Jumping: </p><p></p><p>Note that any such movement invoked deliberately is considered a Jump. It seems pretty clear that Falling is involuntary. </p><p></p><p></p><p>The theatricality of the move is unquestioned. It would look really cool, but the player got greedy. Instead of taking one attack and then jumping down (legit, and cool), s/he tried to squeeze in a full attack <strong>and</strong> a free Jump by calling it Falling.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Silveras, post: 2505777, member: 6271"] The issue here is not about the letter of the rules forbidding such an action; I do not see anyone saying that at all. What I *do* see is people protesting that the action does not pass the "sniff test"; that it is a blatant attempt to exploit an area where the rules are weak. 1: The player is using his knowledge of game mechanics to decide that his character has enough hit points to easily survive the fall. The *character* does not know that. Without magic like [I]levitate[/I] or [I]fly[/I], most *characters* should expect that they are risking being killed or are at least quite likely to break one or more bones. 2: Because the rules frown on incapacitating characters, they present "Damage to Specific Areas" as a variant only (DMG p.27). The player is also capitalizing on this, with respect to the point I just mentioned. 3: The player is exploiting a mistaken interpretation of Falling vs. Jumping: Note that any such movement invoked deliberately is considered a Jump. It seems pretty clear that Falling is involuntary. The theatricality of the move is unquestioned. It would look really cool, but the player got greedy. Instead of taking one attack and then jumping down (legit, and cool), s/he tried to squeeze in a full attack [B]and[/B] a free Jump by calling it Falling. [/QUOTE]
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