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<blockquote data-quote="Infiniti2000" data-source="post: 2505799" data-attributes="member: 31734">It's been pointed out a couple times already in this thread, but I'll do it yet again just for your amusement.&nbsp; You can't take a 5ft-step in a movement mode in which you don't have a listed speed.&nbsp; Since the character's trying to take a 5ft-step into air, he can't because he doesn't have a fly speed.&nbsp; It's that simple.&nbsp;There's a huge difference between a 5ft-step and movement.&nbsp; In game terms, they are not the same thing at all.&nbsp; I personally don't see this as a big cheese factor myself -- if you want to allow the 5ft-step off an edge that's fine.&nbsp; I don't think it will do any harm to your game.&nbsp; But, strictly speaking you can't 5ft-step off any edge, but you can move off an edge.&nbsp;NOTE: If you do let him use the 5ft-step, he cannot use a Jump or Tumble check to help with the fall.&nbsp; Since it's not actually movement (not the difference in game terms), he can't use a skill as part of it that specifies &quot;can be used as part of movement.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Infiniti2000, post: 2505799, member: 31734"] It's been pointed out a couple times already in this thread, but I'll do it yet again just for your amusement. You can't take a 5ft-step in a movement mode in which you don't have a listed speed. Since the character's trying to take a 5ft-step into air, he can't because he doesn't have a fly speed. It's that simple. There's a huge difference between a 5ft-step and movement. In game terms, they are not the same thing at all. I personally don't see this as a big cheese factor myself -- if you want to allow the 5ft-step off an edge that's fine. I don't think it will do any harm to your game. But, strictly speaking you can't 5ft-step off any edge, but you can move off an edge. [b]NOTE[/b]: If you do let him use the 5ft-step, he cannot use a Jump or Tumble check to help with the fall. Since it's not actually movement (not the difference in game terms), he can't use a skill as part of it that specifies "can be used as part of movement." [/QUOTE]

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