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<blockquote data-quote="Zardnaar" data-source="post: 6802674" data-attributes="member: 6716779"><p>Many moons ago (September/Octber 2014) on the WotC boards I claimed bless was broken or at least OP. At the time I had the PHB for maybe a few weeks and was noticing the clerics were using it almost every fight as it out performed every other cleric spell and the were even using it in level 2 and 3 slots and I have seen it cast in a 4th levle slot although that is a little bit rare. I also noticed the way it interacted with the concentration mechanic as well as the clerics were getting sick of having their spells interrupted so they would bless themselves. </p><p></p><p> Now days most clerics I see take the resilient/warcaster feat or start as sorcerers/fighters and MC into clerics. In the whats wrong with 5E thread here on ENworld I have not been overly happy with the 5E save system since the PHB came out. I am not opposed to 6 saves at all I just thought C&C did a better job of it. The crappy 5E saving throw system also feeds back into why Bless is so good.</p><p></p><p> Back mi 2014 the resident power gamer was also using GWF and Sharpshooter with hand crossbow in successive games. We were playing a lot of D&D with 2-3 DMs and 2-5 sessions a week. Downside is last November I may have burned out (although I played 3.0 a lot at the time as well) and we have not played since so I have not tested out my copy of the SCAG or started PotA or OotA. Switched to a game of Star Wars Saga Edition.</p><p></p><p> Basically seeing the same spells get used over and over again and for clerics its still bless. Eldritch blast, dissonant whispers, blindness, haste/greater invisibility, shield, various unique warlock spells are also popular but none of them compare to bess in the amount it gets used unless we have no clerics in the party. </p><p></p><p> My opinion has changed a bit rather than being outright broken I now rate bless as being overpowered bordering on broken as it is one of the few level 1 spells that is just as good (better?) at level 15 as it is at level 4. A cure spell is almost never used with healing word, prayer of healing and the healer feat replacing it. Shield of faith might also get used but it is rare compared with bless. </p><p></p><p> So just wondering what other peoples opinion is of the bless spell as I see it being mentioned a bit in other threads usually in spelll combos or in regards to feats such as great weapon fighting and sharpshooter.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zardnaar, post: 6802674, member: 6716779"] Many moons ago (September/Octber 2014) on the WotC boards I claimed bless was broken or at least OP. At the time I had the PHB for maybe a few weeks and was noticing the clerics were using it almost every fight as it out performed every other cleric spell and the were even using it in level 2 and 3 slots and I have seen it cast in a 4th levle slot although that is a little bit rare. I also noticed the way it interacted with the concentration mechanic as well as the clerics were getting sick of having their spells interrupted so they would bless themselves. Now days most clerics I see take the resilient/warcaster feat or start as sorcerers/fighters and MC into clerics. In the whats wrong with 5E thread here on ENworld I have not been overly happy with the 5E save system since the PHB came out. I am not opposed to 6 saves at all I just thought C&C did a better job of it. The crappy 5E saving throw system also feeds back into why Bless is so good. Back mi 2014 the resident power gamer was also using GWF and Sharpshooter with hand crossbow in successive games. We were playing a lot of D&D with 2-3 DMs and 2-5 sessions a week. Downside is last November I may have burned out (although I played 3.0 a lot at the time as well) and we have not played since so I have not tested out my copy of the SCAG or started PotA or OotA. Switched to a game of Star Wars Saga Edition. Basically seeing the same spells get used over and over again and for clerics its still bless. Eldritch blast, dissonant whispers, blindness, haste/greater invisibility, shield, various unique warlock spells are also popular but none of them compare to bess in the amount it gets used unless we have no clerics in the party. My opinion has changed a bit rather than being outright broken I now rate bless as being overpowered bordering on broken as it is one of the few level 1 spells that is just as good (better?) at level 15 as it is at level 4. A cure spell is almost never used with healing word, prayer of healing and the healer feat replacing it. Shield of faith might also get used but it is rare compared with bless. So just wondering what other peoples opinion is of the bless spell as I see it being mentioned a bit in other threads usually in spelll combos or in regards to feats such as great weapon fighting and sharpshooter. [/QUOTE]
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